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    Params: post, 453350, a:1:{i:0;s:937:"Actually, a pretty well written article. But the article itself mentioned some of the flaws in this argument. While I don't want to go into a whole rant, I'll touch on a couple things: 1. Most of the losses in the 3-18 record come from either bad team play, or a little bit of bad "luck". It is hard to pin too many of those on Rodgers. Also, this is the NFL, the other team sometimes steps up in crunch time. Best example of that is the 2010 37-36 loss to the Steelers. 2. While 3-18 is not impressive by any means, the article showed that some other established quarterbacks have similarily below-average records when it comes to fourth quarter comeback opportunities. I would like to see the numbers for every starter in the league, and some famous retired quarterbacks. 3. Rodgers has proved that he comes through when it matters. I don't think anyone watching the fourth quarter of SB XLV would call Rodgers "Mr. Irrelevant".";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453352, a:1:{i:0;s:1337:"Very poor and distorted article. I lived in KC back then and followed the Chiefs as well as the Packers. The Chiefs lived on their special teams and defense and kicker Nick Lowry back in those days. They had to find ways to win games. Rodgers did struggle in his first year of takeover in 2008. We sputtered in crunch time that season and as a result we were 6-10. But ARod certainly got better after that. In 2009 he led us back against Pittsburgh in the 4th quarter only to have the game handed to the Steelers by our defense on the last play. He brought us back against the Cardinals in the desert in the post season when our defense could not stop anyone that day and still lost when scoring 45 points. In 2010 he tied the Dolphins the week after a concussion on a QB draw with 12 seconds left only to see our short handed defense let Chad Henne and Ricky Williams march through them in OT. Even though we did not trail in the SB ARod delivered the clutch blows in the 4th quarter when the Steelers had us on the ropes. Last season he marched us down in the final seconds to beat the Giants 38-35. Kenney never had that on his resume. Kenny rarely ever put his team in a strong position early in the game like Rodgers does. Someone else had to decide it. That is why Rodgers career will last a lot longer than Kenney's.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453369, a:1:{i:0;s:444:"The article points out bad luck and gives another number of ones where he is holding the ball last. I think the BIGGEST flaw in the article and something they missed is the coaching. Time and time again I have found myself upset with not only the play calling, but the clock management by MM in the final 2 minutes. I believe a game in 2009 against the bengals (maybe?) Rodgers was driving only to run out of time due to bad clock management.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453373, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:34:"milani, post: 453352, member: 6654";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:44:"[quote="milani, post: 453352, member: 6654"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:129:"Rodgers did struggle in his first year of takeover in 2008. We sputtered in crunch time that season and as a result we were 6-10.";}}i:1;s:430:" No he didn't. He threw for more than 4,000 yards, 30 TD's and IIRC, single digit picks. A HUGE reason for the 6-10 record was the defense not being able to prevent the big play late in the game. I distinctly remember games against Carolina, Atlanta and Houston where we had a late 4th quarter lead, and our defense gave up big plays late in the game, which put them in position to win. Rodgers can't do much from the sidelines.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453396, a:1:{i:0;s:275:"1 How often are we really behind in the 4th 2 How far were we down in those games 3 How many of those were early in Rodgers' career 4 Never underestimate the defense trying to make the big stop 5 As has been pointed out, Rodgers is still pretty young, lots of time to improve";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453399, a:1:{i:0;s:82:"Umm... what about the game against the Giants during the regular season last year?";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453428, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:34:"ivo610, post: 453369, member: 2128";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:44:"[quote="ivo610, post: 453369, member: 2128"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:444:"The article points out bad luck and gives another number of ones where he is holding the ball last. I think the BIGGEST flaw in the article and something they missed is the coaching. Time and time again I have found myself upset with not only the play calling, but the clock management by MM in the final 2 minutes. I believe a game in 2009 against the bengals (maybe?) Rodgers was driving only to run out of time due to bad clock management.";}}i:1;s:177:" Didn't Flynn have this same issue two seasons ago? Can't recall if it was Det or NE when the offense stood around wasting time waiting for the call with about 20 seconds left.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453438, a:1:{i:0;s:231:"Crap. Rodgers looses 4th quarter games. And now we have wasted an offseason upgrading the defense and it turns out it is all Rodgers fault. I usually like CHFF but this is what happens when you only look at numbers sans logic.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453445, a:2:{i:0;a:4:{s:3:"tag";s:5:"quote";s:6:"option";s:37:"Poppa San, post: 453428, member: 2547";s:8:"original";a:2:{i:0;s:47:"[quote="Poppa San, post: 453428, member: 2547"]";i:1;s:8:"[/quote]";}s:8:"children";a:1:{i:0;s:176:"Didn't Flynn have this same issue two seasons ago? Can't recall if it was Det or NE when the offense stood around wasting time waiting for the call with about 20 seconds left.";}}i:1;s:144:" It was a game against New England I believe. Unless you watch the game nothing shows you how badly the clock has been managed in these games.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453449, a:1:{i:0;s:245:"Damn, I guess we should cut him. Glad we realized this now before we sign this scrub to another big money contract. How much of his salary are we going to be on the hook for? I hope his cap hit doesn't prevent us from signing Jamarcus Russel.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453456, a:1:{i:0;s:451:"Some good points were made but I find the basis of the article to be irrelevant in itself. I think we get lost in Aaron Rodgers's pure talent and we forget the fact that he is so young yet! He is only going to continue to improve at every level and that includes his play in the 4th quarter. We need not fault him for having a weakness in a seemingly flawless QB. He is human, give him time and the word "clutch" will be synonymous with Aaron Rodgers.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453466, a:1:{i:0;s:1620:"I remember this discussion from back then and I will say what I said then. Often, the circumstances were far from giving Rodgers a reasonable chance to bring the team back. There is much to be considered when looking at comebacks. Do you need a TD or a FG to win or tie? Often they were down by 4 or more and needed a TD. How much time is left? Big difference in two minutes or less and say 2 or three minutes. How many timeouts are left? How far do they have to go? I recall the D repeatedly failing to hold teams from a late score and with less than 2 minutes to go Rodgers would have to come back out there with 80+ yds needed because the KO return teams sucked and one or no timeouts to get it done. What? You want miracles? Today you give this guy two plus minutes and a couple of timeouts along with the 2 minute warning and he will nail it more than any other QB out there. But if you ask him or any other QB to score a TD with say 1:50 on the clock and one time out and 80 yards it's probably not going to happen. A FG to win or tie? Sure, that might happen. If he did need a TD there though that's a game the defense totally blew and won't forget the entire season....and shouldn't. What counts as a failed comeback anyhow? If he's got one minute and 75 yards and it doesn't happen does that count? All I know is I remember him often up against the wall and he had played well enough not to be in that position. I remember that Bears game when we had 20 plus penalties and still had a chance when Jordy put the ball on the ground on the sidelines. Of course the failed comeback goes to Rodgers. Whatever.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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    Params: post, 453472, a:1:{i:0;s:735:"What sticks out in my memory much more than Rodgers not making the play is somebody else making a mistake, whether it be a dropped ball, fumble, missed tackle(s), and SOMETIMES clock management. My only dispute of the clock management comment is that the QB has the full capability to take control of the last few minutes of the game and run it as he pleases. Look at Peyton Manning. If clock management is poorly orchestrated, not many people would look at the coach as making the mistake. Rodgers is looking more and more like Peyton, taking control of this offense. With control comes responsibility. The clock management errors will disappear as he continues his career, and that will be because of his football intelligence.";}, 1458829234, 1464487786
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