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Aaron Rodgers contract

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Mar 19, 2013.

  1. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    anyone know what % the agent gets of the overall contract signed? Just wondering.....
     
  2. adambr2

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    I think it's generally 3%, I don't think they are allowed to charge more than that on NFL contracts. It might be more in other sports, though.

    3% on a $150M contract though (just speculating an amount) is still a pretty serious rake for negotiating a contract!
     
  3. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    That's what I was thinking !!!! Having the same agent for the BIG deals going down is almost a conflict of interest IMO. I might just retire after making the Arod/CM3 deal....lol
     
  4. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    The Press Gazette quotes an nfl.com source saying the Packers and Rodgers are $2M/year apart, with the Packers currently offering a little more than $21M/year. If true, the deal will definitely be less than the $25M/year speculated about.

    It's been mentioned a lot about how underpaid (by NFL elite QB standards) Rodgers has been but I have heard him mention that for the first three years of his Packers career he was overpaid. I'm not saying it balances out - again by NFL standards - I'm just saying that's also part of the story.

    When the details on the Flacco deal came out, I was (foolishly) hoping Rodgers would sign a deal with $1 more guaranteed and $1 more overall. While Rodgers will no doubt be the highest paid player in the league once the deal is done, it won't be that long before that's no longer true. So one dollar more than the current highest paid player shows him the respect he's due while giving the Packers a little more cash and cap space to retain others. And no matter what the particulars of this extension are, Rodgers' family should be financially secure for generations upon generations if he's smart with his money - and IMO it's extremely likely he is. So Aaron, please tell your agent it's OK if he leaves a little money on the table. He'll collect his share of that money from Matthews and probably Raji.

    http://www.packersnews.com/article/...s-Rodgers-only-2-million-apart?nclick_check=1
     
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  5. DevilDon

    DevilDon Inclement Weather Fan

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    Yep Jack, I remember when they inked him to that deal. It was a huge show of confidence in an unproven player at that time. I think it should help in some respect when Aaron signs this deal. He knew they threw their chips in with him at that point. I'm just glad to hear it's not in the $25 mil range that was initially reported. I think we all can live with 22 or 23.
    Not that we have any darned say in the matter, haha.
     
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  6. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

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    That's total average, it'll still be 25 after his current deal would have been up if I'm thinking right.
     
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  7. Chicocheese

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    Hell...just raise the cost of a beer at the stadium 50 cents and that will get you $2 million/year that you are shy.
     
  8. bozz_2006

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    Assuming no playoff games, that's 400,000 beers a game.











    ..... I'm thinking 10 cents oughta do it ;)
     
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  9. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    Raising the price of beer in WI might get you shot......just don't also raise the price of brats and cheese curds as well.
     
  10. texaspackerbacker

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    JSOnline says the $2 million is between $23 and 25 million. Good Article - says virtually the same I have been saying all along - a longer contract is a lot better than short. They are talking 6 instead of 4. I say make it 10 years - a career deal similar to what Favre's was supposed to be. The article also shows cap numbers for Flacco and Brees - also a lot like the example I wrote up - not bad at all in the first couple of years. It says they are expecting a big cap increase in '15 or '16. The article also points out that when the $18 current amount under the cap is mentioned, it includes Rodgers and Matthews current cap numbers. Thus, getting a new contract for both should actually give the Packers more cap space, not less for the first year. This just ain't the mess some make it out to be.
     
  11. ivo610

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    The big increases in cap is a myth. The league wants a gradual rise in the cap not a sudden surge. It's been in the media and fans have grabbed onto it as a way to justify big contracts that are back ended. Don't spend tomorrow's money today.
     
  12. Chicocheese

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    Use the extra 40 cents for Matthews, Raji, etc.
     
  13. PWT

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    Concession revenue (Beer & Food ) is local money(non shared)generated at Lambeau Field cannot be used for Player's contracts. Local revenue is revenue from luxury boxes, Club seats, Packer pro shop, Restaurants in Atrium, Lambeau Field tours, Packerr Hall of Fame tours , and any other shared revenue generated at Lambeau Field.
    None of this local revenue can be used for playere's contracts.

    Only national shared revenue (salary cap revenue) can be used for player's contracts. The sources of National revenueare from the NFL who has Contracts with TV networks to telecast NFL games, also revenue from NFL licenses which allow Corporations to use NFL and NFL teams logos on merchandise ( NFL cap and jersey etc) which sold to it's customers. And also the visiting teams share of general admission tickets at all NFL home games and this revenue is sent to the NFL. .

    This revenue is divided equally among the NFL teams and sent back to the NFL teams to be used for salary cap money to pay the player's contracts.
     
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  14. texaspackerbacker

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    True or myth about "big" increases, it will steadily be going up, and that definitely is the way to go with contracts. Just watch when the Rodgers deal actually happens. It will be similar structure to Flacco and Brees - but a little bit bigger, as it should be.
     
  15. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    Not sure who has posted it's a "mess" but look at the cap numbers for Brees and Flacco again. If Rodgers' deal is structured similarly, those numbers show more pressure on the cap in future years. And remember Matthews will require a huge deal as well. Just because there may be more cap room this season than some expect doesn't mean the Packers don't have to be careful managing the cap going forward, and that includes signing UFAs this season. BTW, my guess is Thompson and Ball will try to "fill up" more cap space this season (than BAL or NO) to reduce those numbers in "outer" years.
     
  16. ivo610

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    I hope it isn't structured anywhere near flaccos or brees. Have you looked at the contracts? I don't want to start out with a $6 mil cap hit to only have a $26 mil cap hit down the road. I'd rather have a bigger cap hit this year and a steady cap hit for the rest.
     
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  17. texaspackerbacker

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    Maybe. There is $32 million to work with, not just the $18 million. It could be done with as little as $7 or 8 million this year - actually less than the $9.75 it would be with the current contract. You probably are right that it won't be minimized like that, but even if you add say $5 million and do something similar with Matthews, you still have a much bigger cap hit down the line like with Brees and Flacco. It's still no big deal, though, because the cap will be bigger then- how much and how gradual is debatable, I suppose. And there is always the possibility of re-structuring in 4 or 5 years or whatever - or even cutting somebody if, heaven forbid, there are injuries or drop-off in performance.
     
  18. BOB KAMINSKI

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    THERE IS NO ATHLETE WORTH THE DOLLARS THAT THESE PRO SPORTS TEAMS ARE OFFERING THESE BALL PLAYERS. THIS PRICE MARKET IS GOING TO BRING PRO FOOTBALL DOWN TO ITS KNEES. THEY WILL PRICE THEIR SELF'S RIGHT OUT OF THE FAN'S WALLET. THEY HAVE TO START TO GIVE THE FAMILIES A BIG PRICE BREAK. THE NEXT THING IN LINE IS PAY PER VIEW FOR NFL FOOTBALL. WATCH OUT FANS, IT'S COMING VERY SOON. THE NFL and ITS PLAYERS ARE MONEY HUNGARY and LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK. I CAN DO WITH OUT THE NFL AS I HAVE ALL OF FAVRE'S
    GAMES, PLUS RODGER'S GAMES and 45 "SUPER BOWLS" TO WATCH. THE OWNERS OF THE NFL TEAMS HAVE TO TELL THE PLAYERS WHERE THE BEAR **** IN THE BUCK WHEAT and START TO SHARE THE PROFITS IN THE COST OF A GAME TICKET FOR THEIR MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE THE FANS OF THE GAME.
    THANK YOU, A FOOTBALL NUT,
    BOB KAMINSKI
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  19. Packer Fan in SD

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    OK. Haven't heard anything like that ever since free agency started way back when, have we? Now go take your meds and get some sleep. Or stop the "meds" and get some sleep. Might not want to use your real name when yelling incoherently on the internet. "They" might be watching.
     
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  20. realcaliforniacheese

    realcaliforniacheese A-Rods Boss

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    Damn, that's alot of piss.
     
  21. DevilDon

    DevilDon Inclement Weather Fan

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    But it's not really certain that you are thinking right, correct?
     
  22. HyponGrey

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    Correct.

    Also, PWT, you're an @$$
     
  23. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    Bob Kaminski, perhaps a larger font would get your point across better? Then again, perhaps not.;)

    [rant]If you don't want to support the NFL or any other entertainment venture, you are free not to. And if enough people agree with you, the NFL will become less popular and the owners, people in the front offices, coaching staffs and the players will make less money. But you've got to know that's not the trend.

    IMO professional sports is part of the entertainment industry. So NFL players, just like players in MLB and the NBA make a ton of money as do many movie and TV actors and entertainers in the music industry, etc. I have no problem with it because I believe capitalism is by far the best economic system (and I support what looks like an anti-trust violation which keeps the NFL competitive). And for those who believe the fact a relative few in our society get extremely wealthy is a bad thing, I think that's a small price to pay for the rest of us being relatively (less and less unfortunately) free to pursue our own economic interests. IOW, I believe what would be by far worse than the current system is one trying to "fix" it by reducing our freedom further.

    BTW, Green Bay Packers tickets are still a relative bargain in the marketplace. Considering the demand and the length of the season ticket waiting list, the fair market value of those tickets probably approaches twice what they're asking. But of course you don't have to go to Lambeau: Except for games on the NFL network, you can enjoy NFL games on TV at no additional cost. If the time comes when Packers games are pay-per-view, I'll pay to watch them. Because I don't believe I deserve to consume entertainment for free and I am incredibly entertained by Packers football. But thank goodness - for now at least - you are free not to.[/rant]
     
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  24. ivo610

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    Nothing says share the wealth like the nfl. Damn you socialism!!!!
     
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  25. Darth Garfunkel

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    Well it's a socialist model that works i guess! Share the revenue so the little team can sign the most expensive player.

    That said, I don't understand how people get so pinched over athletes making so much scratch. The money is coming in because people want to see star players. so if they don't get a good chunk then who does, the owners? Has anyone ever paid a dime to see Jerry Jones withered mug live or in HD?

    Besides, the players are the ones who get the crap beat out of them. If anything it's the college players who get the shaft as their programs rake in the cash and they never see a dime. Think of how much the NCAA tourney brought in and how many dollars were generated from networks replaying Ware's leg break over and over. He got squat out of that deal.
     

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