Oshkoshpackfan
YUT !!!
I see you have finally come around and gave Finley some love.
keep that **** on the down low, I don't want that info getting out into the public.
I see you have finally come around and gave Finley some love.
Matthews' deal will approach Mario Williams' deal, but will not match or exceed it for one simple reason: the Bills had a moment of temporary insanity. Matthews chronic hamstring issues make this particularly tricky
Rodgers will exceed Flaco; by how much remains to be seen. I do not consider it a lock that Rodgers will get his deal this year.
I read recently that Rodgers and Matthews have the same agent. That must make things interesting, as chips get moved back and forth between the two piles.
We have many great players. We have only two game changers, Matthews and Rodgers. Though we've only had those two since ~2010. In 2011, Woodson had already slid enough to not be in that super-elite group.
keep that **** on the down low, I don't want that info getting out into the public.
Ummmm arod was around before 2010 and cm3 was a rookie in 2009
Poorly phrased on my part.
In 2010, we had three: Woodson, Rodgers, and Matthews. I go back and forth on Collins, potentially giving us 4.
In 2011, we had two: Rodgers and Matthews. Woodson slipped and Collins, we all know about.
In 2012, we had two: Rodgers and Matthews.
Cobb has the potential be such a player, but isn't quite there yet. Part of his problem is that it's so hard to be a game-changer from the WR position.
Ok, cool...thought you might have lost your mind for a minute...lol
Cobb is a game changer at WR and saved our bacon many times last season. He is also very versitile and has 10+ yds every time we put him in the backfield and run him. I don't think he needs to be kept at KR or PR, he is toooo valuable to lose to an injury in a high injury situation such as returning kicks.
He will be the next fat contract situation.
I hope neither. At the moment he`s just too valuable. I haven`t read too much about James Jones either. I hope he plays a bigger part this season IMO.He won't be returning kickoffs next year but punts maybe. I like Ross on kickoff returns alot better.
Cobb is a game changer at WR and saved our bacon many times last season. He is also very versitile and has 10+ yds every time we put him in the backfield and run him. I don't think he needs to be kept at KR or PR, he is toooo valuable to lose to an injury in a high injury situation such as returning kicks.
Ok, cool...thought you might have lost your mind for a minute...lol
Cobb is a game changer at WR and saved our bacon many times last season. He is also very versitile and has 10+ yds every time we put him in the backfield and run him. I don't think he needs to be kept at KR or PR, he is toooo valuable to lose to an injury in a high injury situation such as returning kicks.
He will be the next fat contract situation.
True, but he has TWO years left on his contract. Which was his 2nd contract, and real money.I thought a team was built AROUND the quarterback ?
True.I hold Game-Changer to a very high standard. This is not selling Cobb short. To be a Game-Changer, the other team has to say, for example, "We need to stop 12" and the game plan starts with that. And then, said Game-Changer needs to overcome the game plan anyway. Cobb isn't there yet.
Think Reggie getting his sacks at the end of Super Bowl 31 from with a 3 man rush.
True.
But then by your own definition, you must consider Jermichael Finley a game-changer, because we have heard that the Giants, Bears focus on him first of all the receivers.
Remember the Giants chalkboard before the 2011 playoff game? They said it was stop #88.
Wow! Really sticking your neck out there! LOLLets see what Cobb does this year. I am not saying he is not a very valuable part of our offense but I am not sure about a game changer. He is going to get game planned for this year, if he can continue to progress and put up big numbers this season I will call him a game changer. If he regresses with the additional attention, well then he is no more valuable than Nelson or Jones. Not saying Nelson and Jones are not key components but they are not game changers.
Lets see what Cobb does this year. I am not saying he is not a very valuable part of our offense but I am not sure about a game changer. He is going to get game planned for this year, if he can continue to progress and put up big numbers this season I will call him a game changer. If he regresses with the additional attention, well then he is no more valuable than Nelson or Jones. Not saying Nelson and Jones are not key components but they are not game changers.
??????? wow....just wow
Cobb IS a game changer, he won games for us.....if not for him, we might not have been where we were. J. Jones not a game changer for us either.....did you happen to see his circus catches? His NFL leading 14 TD's ??? If not for him, we would have been in a different spot as well. " no more valuable than nelson or jones" WTF? You don't realize how much teams plan against nelson and jones do you? After the 2011 season and our token white boy WR nelson who got shunned by several other DB's around the NFL for not being "that good" and then turned around and made them eat **** during a game......they now plan for him.....they plan for cobb....they plan for Jones....It is ignorant to think that they don't. We have a top rated WR corps, EVEN WITHOUT JENNINGS.
Wow getting a little excited aren't we. We obviously have a different view on what a game changer is. I think we have two game changers on our team, Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews. All I know is in 2009 Donald Driver was the Packers leading receiver, in 2010 it was Greg Jenning, in 2011 it was Jordy Nelson, and in 2012 it was Randall Cobb. No team looks at the Packers and says we have to shut down this receiver in order to win. They have to account for all of them because it Aaron Rodgers and the system not one particular WR.
Did Rodgers contract just get bigger? God I hate the big spenders like Jones, Snyder, and whoever the hell is in charge of the Ravens.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-romo-gets-more-guaranteed-money-than-flacco/