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    Params: post, 250768, a:1:{i:0;s:976:"I agree with Haus. But frankly, as a Packer fan, or a sports fan in general; I've got the right to feel however I want. Sports gives us a chance to love and hate people for no logical reason whatsoever. Sure I hate Favre now because he's a Viking and I think he should have stayed retired and stayed a god in our eyes. But I see the other side as well, but choose not to argue it. It's my right as a Packer fan. Of course it's anyone else's right to blame TT for everything including global warming, the price of gas, and why Walmart is going to take over the world. It's all illogical and completely pointless. But that's what makes it fun. Favre can do whatever he wants. I don't give a rats ass about him anymore. He isn't a Packer. I think too many people get wrapped up in the whole business of football and forget that it is a game and it is for our entertainment. Let Favre, TT and everyone else deal with that. Just have fun watching the sparks fly.";}, 1470665447, 1472081006
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    Params: post, 250773, a:1:{i:0;s:166:"coincidentally the same thing might be true in America... After searching for a new GB jersey, all the "4" jerseys were on sale... But I had to go for my man Harris!";}, 1470665447, 1472081006
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    Params: post, 250777, a:1:{i:0;s:665:"Can't believe the ignorance of these Farve lovers, right or wrong. ALMOST as idiotic as being a Farve hater. "We" is not Wolfe, it is the Packers as an organization owned by the people. Second, anyone who believes TT did the wrong thing has NO experience running a business. Clearly, Farve (the tail) wanted to wag the dog (Packers). No responsible could allow that to happen. The writer said Farve "earned" the right to do it (?) on his terms. El Toro PU PU Maximus. He was given a chance, he refused, and he engineered his exodus to Mn. In so doing he lied, mislead and was petulant in the process. As a football player, he is great. As a hero, he failed.";}, 1470665447, 1472081006
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  44. library/XenForo/Controller.php
  45. library/ModerateCountry/RegisterListener.php
  46. library/EWRporta2/Widget/Listener/ArticlesMain.php
  47. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Listener.php
  48. library/Dark/PostRating/EventListener.php
  49. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Controller.php
  50. library/FreePro/XenForo/ControllerPublic/Thread.php
  51. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/ControllerPublic/Thread.php
  52. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/ControllerPublic/Thread.php
  53. library/EWRporta2/ControllerPublic/Thread.php
  54. library/XenForo/Input.php
  55. library/XenForo/Session.php
  56. library/Zend/Db.php
  57. library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Mysqli.php
  58. library/Zend/Db/Adapter/Abstract.php
  59. library/Zend/Db/Select.php
  60. library/Zend/Db/Expr.php
  61. library/Zend/Db/Profiler.php
  62. library/Zend/Db/Statement/Mysqli.php
  63. library/Zend/Db/Statement.php
  64. library/Zend/Db/Statement/Interface.php
  65. library/XenForo/Helper/Ip.php
  66. library/XenForo/Visitor.php
  67. library/XenForo/Model/User.php
  68. library/ThemeHouse/JoinUserGroup/Listener/LoadClass.php
  69. library/ThemeHouse/Listener/LoadClass.php
  70. library/ThemeHouse/Listener/LoadClass/20150518.php
  71. library/Dark/TaigaChat/EventListener/Listener.php
  72. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Listener.php
  73. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Model.php
  74. library/ThemeHouse/JoinUserGroup/Extend/XenForo/Model/User.php
  75. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/User.php
  76. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/Model/User.php
  77. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/Model/User.php
  78. library/EWRporta2/Model/User.php
  79. library/Zend/Db/Profiler/Query.php
  80. library/XenForo/Permission.php
  81. library/XenForo/Helper/Php.php
  82. library/XenForo/Phrase.php
  83. library/XenForo/Locale.php
  84. library/Sedo/DetectBrowser/Listener/Visitor.php
  85. library/Sedo/DetectBrowser/Helper/MobileDetect.php
  86. library/EWRporta2/Model/Perms.php
  87. library/ThemeHouse/JoinUserGroup/Listener/ControllerPreDispatch.php
  88. library/ThemeHouse/Listener/ControllerPreDispatch.php
  89. library/ThemeHouse/Listener/ControllerPreDispatch/20150911.php
  90. library/UnreadPostCount/Listener.php
  91. library/XenForo/ControllerHelper/ForumThreadPost.php
  92. library/XenForo/ControllerHelper/Abstract.php
  93. library/XenForo/Model/Thread.php
  94. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/Thread.php
  95. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/Thread.php
  96. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Model/Thread.php
  97. library/UnreadPostCount/Model/Thread.php
  98. library/Dark/PostRating/Model.php
  99. library/XenForo/Model/Forum.php
  100. library/XenForo/Helper/String.php
  101. library/XenForo/Helper/Discussion.php
  102. library/XenForo/Model/Post.php
  103. library/Dark/PostRating/Model/Post.php
  104. library/sonnbThreadMassActions/Model/Post.php
  105. library/EWRporta2/Model/Post.php
  106. library/EWRporta2/Model/Articles.php
  107. library/XenForo/Model/Attachment.php
  108. library/XenForo/Model/Node.php
  109. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/Node.php
  110. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Categories.php
  111. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Forums.php
  112. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/View.php
  113. library/XenForo/ControllerResponse/Abstract.php
  114. library/Nobita/IgnoreThread/Model/IgnoreThread.php
  115. library/XenForo/Helper/Cookie.php
  116. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/HtmlPublic.php
  117. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Abstract.php
  118. library/XenForo/Template/Public.php
  119. library/XenForo/Template/Abstract.php
  120. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Thread/View.php
  121. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Base.php
  122. library/XenForo/View.php
  123. library/EWRporta2/Listener/ViewPublic.php
  124. library/XenForo/BbCode/Parser.php
  125. library/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  126. library/EWRporta2/Listener/BbCode.php
  127. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  128. library/sonnb/XenGallery/XenForo/BbCode/Formatter/Base.php
  129. library/EWRporta2/BbCode/Formatter.php
  130. library/XenForo/ViewPublic/Helper/Message.php
  131. library/XenForo/BbCode/TextWrapper.php
  132. library/WhoHasVisited/Listener.php
  133. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  134. library/bdTagMe/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Members.php
  135. library/Dark/TaigaChat/EventListener/NavigationTabs.php
  136. library/EWRporta2/Listener/NavTabs.php
  137. library/XenForo/Template/FileHandler.php
  138. library/XenForo/Helper/File.php
  139. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,thread_view.php
  140. library/SeparateStickyAndNormal/Listener.php
  141. library/EWRporta2/Listener/Template.php
  142. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,ignore_thread_tool.php
  143. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,page_nav.php
  144. library/XenForo/Route/Prefix/Posts.php
  145. library/XenForo/Model/Avatar.php
  146. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating_message_user_info.php
  147. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,dark_postrating.php
  148. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,bb_code_tag_quote.php
  149. library/XenForo/Helper/Criteria.php
  150. library/XenForo/Debug.php
  151. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,PAGE_CONTAINER.php
  152. library/FreePro/Helper.php
  153. internal_data/templates/S.7,L.1,EWRporta2_Navtabs.php
  154. library/XenForo/ViewRenderer/Json.php