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I saw that on Sportscenter this morning. Truly amazing, and I liked Herm Edwards saying that 70yds should be worth 4pts. I hope that somebody made that kid a trophy to celebrate 70yds.

Little needs to be a consistent kicker in order to get a chance to rewrite the record books.
 
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I saw that on Sportscenter this morning. Truly amazing, and I liked Herm Edwards saying that 70yds should be worth 4pts. I hope that somebody made that kid a trophy to celebrate 70yds.

Little needs to be a consistent kicker in order to get a chance to rewrite the record books.
I agree. If he gets his accuracy in check this guy could put up some serious numbers during a career. From what I've heard, they believe he could tack on another 5 yards as long as he had a small tailwind. At this point, teams need to be concerned that if the Jags get the ball to the 50-yard-line, they're actually in range for Little to kick a game winner. That's just downright unbelievable.
 

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I agree. If he gets his accuracy in check this guy could put up some serious numbers during a career. From what I've heard, they believe he could tack on another 5 yards as long as he had a small tailwind. At this point, teams need to be concerned that if the Jags get the ball to the 50-yard-line, they're actually in range for Little to kick a game winner. That's just downright unbelievable.
I cannot believe all these meteoric FGs we are seeing this weekend. Come Monday tally up how many made from 45-70 yards. Like it is a piece of cake. During the regular season teams may opt against trying some of those. At any rate something is in the air in August.
 

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I hope that somebody made that kid a trophy to celebrate 70yds.
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I cannot believe all these meteoric FGs we are seeing this weekend. Come Monday tally up how many made from 45-70 yards. Like it is a piece of cake. During the regular season teams may opt against trying some of those. At any rate something is in the air in August.
Climate change! A ball travels farther in hot, humid air, because it is less dense. Water vapor is actually lighter than oxygen or nitrogen molecules.

(Mostly) joking, of course. It is true that a ball travels farther in hot humid air, but I seriously doubt it would have that significant an impact.
 
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I agree. If he gets his accuracy in check this guy could put up some serious numbers during a career. From what I've heard, they believe he could tack on another 5 yards as long as he had a small tailwind. At this point, teams need to be concerned that if the Jags get the ball to the 50-yard-line, they're actually in range for Little to kick a game winner. That's just downright unbelievable.
If you look at where the guy caught the ball, I think he makes that from 5 yards back without a tailwind.
 
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Climate change! A ball travels farther in hot, humid air, because it is less dense. Water vapor is actually lighter than oxygen or nitrogen molecules.

(Mostly) joking, of course. It is true that a ball travels farther in hot humid air, but I seriously doubt it would have that significant an impact.
It actually does travel further in warmer weather with low humidity. At lower temperatures the ball doesn't rebound from compression as well and humidity actually creates resistance in the air. It's the same phenomenon as baseball, even the baseballs are solid core vs the air inside a football.
 

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Climate change! A ball travels farther in hot, humid air, because it is less dense. Water vapor is actually lighter than oxygen or nitrogen molecules.

(Mostly) joking, of course. It is true that a ball travels farther in hot humid air, but I seriously doubt it would have that significant an impact.
There have been studies, not sure how accurate, but they have been done.
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When i was kicking, warm weather (about 55 to 70 degrees) and low humidity and the ball went a tad further. When it was cold, the ball felt like you were kicking a rock, and when it was hot it did strange things in the air like watching a knuckle ball in baseball on a hot humid day. Even though the difference might seem slight to someone who doesn't apply the principle of kicking themselves it would be better if you listen to people who actually experience differences based on weather.

Ask yourself why NFL kickers in domed stadiums kick better and punters punt better inside than those outside. Factor in wind, humidity, temperature, and anything else that can effect a kick.
 

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Ask yourself why NFL kickers in domed stadiums kick better and punters punt better inside than those outside. Factor in wind, humidity, temperature, and anything else that can effect a kick.
Don't forget about stadium crews (like for the NY Giants) that used to open doors/tunnels when the opposing team was kicking FGs in order to create wind swirls during their attempts!
 

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Don't forget about stadium crews (like for the NY Giants) that used to open doors/tunnels when the opposing team was kicking FGs in order to create wind swirls during their attempts!
Really EG? Never heard of this but it's plausible. Only a few inches separate a doink, or double doink, from 3 pts. Just a little gust of wind........ Although it could work in reverse as well.
 

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When i was kicking, warm weather (about 55 to 70 degrees) and low humidity and the ball went a tad further. When it was cold, the ball felt like you were kicking a rock, and when it was hot it did strange things in the air like watching a knuckle ball in baseball on a hot humid day. Even though the difference might seem slight to someone who doesn't apply the principle of kicking themselves it would be better if you listen to people who actually experience differences based on weather.

Ask yourself why NFL kickers in domed stadiums kick better and punters punt better inside than those outside. Factor in wind, humidity, temperature, and anything else that can effect a kick.
Are you assuming I don't? Wow. Nice stretch. As a pilot (since 1984), I know all about how the heat, humidity, and altitude affect things flying through the air. My comment on how accurate the data is was because I don't know how he did his study.

Edit: We call it "density altitude".
 
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I saw that on Sportscenter this morning. Truly amazing, and I liked Herm Edwards saying that 70yds should be worth 4pts. I hope that somebody made that kid a trophy to celebrate 70yds.

Little needs to be a consistent kicker in order to get a chance to rewrite the record books.
There is logic to tying a FGs worth, in points, to distance. But where to stop? Hot weather, cold weather, humidity, tailwinds, headwinds.....
 

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I miss teams playing in natural weather conditions. I hate the idea of indoor stadiums. But like other things in the NFL, I have zero control over it. Nothing like having to slog through mud to win a game.
Miss the old Met?
 
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Are you assuming I don't? Wow. Nice stretch. As a pilot (since 1984), I know all about how the heat, humidity, and altitude affect things flying through the air. My comment on how accurate the data is was because I don't know how he did his study.

Edit: We call it "density altitude".
I was referencing it relation to kicking, which you obviously aren't very knowledgeable about. As for planes, I don't fly them but I do understand the principles of lift, wind resistance, updrafts, downdrafts and sheer. I also know that a fecking football that's kicked in weather below freezing is like kicking a block of ice and don't go as far as one that's warm and plyable.
 

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Really EG? Never heard of this but it's plausible. Only a few inches separate a doink, or double doink, from 3 pts. Just a little gust of wind........ Although it could work in reverse as well.
Players and coaches swore that they opened certain doors when the opponent was kicking, or opened other doors to give the hometown kicker the wind at his back on a long kick. When the Vikings opened their new stadium with the massive glass doors at the end, the NFL made them clearly understand that the doors either had to be open or closed at game time with no changes until after the game was over. It was essentially trying to prevent future situations with home teams affecting the wind indoors.
 

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When the Vikings opened their new stadium with the massive glass doors at the end, the NFL made them clearly understand that the doors either had to be open or closed at game time with no changes until after the game was over. It was essentially trying to prevent future situations with home teams affecting the wind indoors.
Unfortunately, it did not occur to the league to warn them not to deliberately pipe in amplified crowd noise through the PA system when the opposing team was at the line of scrimmage. :roflmao:

I think they actually got away with that one for a couple of years, before the NFL figured it out.
 

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I was referencing it relation to kicking, which you obviously aren't very knowledgeable about. As for planes, I don't fly them but I do understand the principles of lift, wind resistance, updrafts, downdrafts and sheer. I also know that a fecking football that's kicked in weather below freezing is like kicking a block of ice and don't go as far as one that's warm and plyable.
I’m not? Based on your intimate knowledge of my football history. An assumption on your part.
 

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After a rough calculation, the density altitude around the time he kicked the field goal would have been around 1,800 feet. Had he done it in Denver, I could easily see it going 80 yards.
 
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After a rough calculation, the density altitude around the time he kicked the field goal would have been around 1,800 feet. Had he done it in Denver, I could easily see it going 80 yards.
This might help. It was roughly 9 PM the kick was made. EverBank Stadium lays on an angle of NE to SW. The wind was out of the ESE at roughly 7 mph so it wasn't a wind aided kick. The relative humidity at the time of the kick was roughly 93%.The barometric pressure was 30.03 and steady. No doubt the kick he made would have gone further in Denver at altitude. Ten yards? I can't say that's not true.
 

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This might help. It was roughly 9 PM the kick was made. EverBank Stadium lays on an angle of NE to SW. The wind was out of the ESE at roughly 7 mph so it wasn't a wind aided kick. The relative humidity at the time of the kick was roughly 93%.The barometric pressure was 30.03 and steady. No doubt the kick he made would have gone further in Denver at altitude. Ten yards? I can't say that's not true.
I figured a little lower pressure, didn't know the time. Used National Weather Service data from the Naval Air Station, 29.99, thought the game was earlier.

10 yards? No, I think it would have gone another 5 yards. I think it went about 75 yards, looking at where the guy in the back of the end zone caught it.

It would be cool if someone made a machine that kicked footballs and went around to each stadium over time and checked how much difference temperature and density altitude can affect the ball being kicked. I think having a machine that kicks at a constant rate would be the only way to do it.

I also think someone could probably write a computer program to figure it out as well. The only thing they would have to figure out is how hard a kicker kicks the ball.
 

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