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<blockquote data-quote="757Niner" data-source="post: 483884" data-attributes="member: 6235"><p>Losing Hunter, Kyle Williams, and Manningham was big for our offense because they played specific roles. We don't use a lot of 3 WR sets at all so its not because of that element. They both bbrought different elements to our offense and play-calling. When you have a QB like Rodgers, he can mask a lot of deficiencies offensively. Its harder on us, those injuries specifically because we're still finding our way as a offensive unit, with the QB change. Williams and MM had certain packages that they played in and played well. Hunter is better than James at this point. Better runner between the tackles and having patience and letting blocks develop. So from the outside looking in, it may seem like we're just missing some role players but their roles were significant in what we do. For a 4th WR, Williams was having a very good year. And despite his stature, was our best blocking WR outside of Crabtree. We miss that on those runs outside the tackles. All your WRs have retruned so its all good for you guys now. We're basically down to 3 WRs now because of course, Ginn doesn't count.</p><p></p><p>But its not about injuries really, its about team chemistry and consistency at this point and we've lacked in these two areas virtually the entire season. And its mostly come from the offesnive side of the ball. I don't even put the onus on the OC as most Niner fans have. Roman is part of a bigger issue. Its the whole OC by committee aproach that I think at times, has the offense dis-jointed and lacking a certain flow. JH has said he can veto any play-call and guys like Chryst have made calls in games before.This is a byproduct of his days at Stanford, where Roman would call the running plays and David Shaw was the passing coordinator. That type of committee approach may work at the college level but it just seems like a case of too many chefs in the kitchen this year. </p><p></p><p>We've lost our identity as a offensive team. Last year we were a physical, mauling offense in the trenches. Now we've slowly becoming a finesse team. We've drifted away from last year's mantra of protect the ball, time of possession, power-run team. Suddenly that wasn't good enough. And that was evident from the QB change. We wanted a more dynamic passing attack. Made a QB switch. Incoperated more "gadget/finesse" plays. More read option because of CK and spread looks to accommodate all these new weapons we have. We lost that smash-mouth mentality in the process. That phyiscalness we played with and put on display every game last year has been missing for extended periods of time this year, especially since CK has been the starter. That makes us more susceptible to getting out-physicaled, like we saw from the Giants and the 'Hawks. The Hawks did to us what we normally do to other teams. This offense has no real identity, even this late into the year. Most teams know who they are at this point. One drive, I think Chip Kelly is the OC. Next drive, it looks like its Marty Ball. There is no cohensive offensive flow to the play-calls....no identity to why we do, what we do, and when we do it. Its my biggest worry for this team, heading into our first playoff game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="757Niner, post: 483884, member: 6235"] Losing Hunter, Kyle Williams, and Manningham was big for our offense because they played specific roles. We don't use a lot of 3 WR sets at all so its not because of that element. They both bbrought different elements to our offense and play-calling. When you have a QB like Rodgers, he can mask a lot of deficiencies offensively. Its harder on us, those injuries specifically because we're still finding our way as a offensive unit, with the QB change. Williams and MM had certain packages that they played in and played well. Hunter is better than James at this point. Better runner between the tackles and having patience and letting blocks develop. So from the outside looking in, it may seem like we're just missing some role players but their roles were significant in what we do. For a 4th WR, Williams was having a very good year. And despite his stature, was our best blocking WR outside of Crabtree. We miss that on those runs outside the tackles. All your WRs have retruned so its all good for you guys now. We're basically down to 3 WRs now because of course, Ginn doesn't count. But its not about injuries really, its about team chemistry and consistency at this point and we've lacked in these two areas virtually the entire season. And its mostly come from the offesnive side of the ball. I don't even put the onus on the OC as most Niner fans have. Roman is part of a bigger issue. Its the whole OC by committee aproach that I think at times, has the offense dis-jointed and lacking a certain flow. JH has said he can veto any play-call and guys like Chryst have made calls in games before.This is a byproduct of his days at Stanford, where Roman would call the running plays and David Shaw was the passing coordinator. That type of committee approach may work at the college level but it just seems like a case of too many chefs in the kitchen this year. We've lost our identity as a offensive team. Last year we were a physical, mauling offense in the trenches. Now we've slowly becoming a finesse team. We've drifted away from last year's mantra of protect the ball, time of possession, power-run team. Suddenly that wasn't good enough. And that was evident from the QB change. We wanted a more dynamic passing attack. Made a QB switch. Incoperated more "gadget/finesse" plays. More read option because of CK and spread looks to accommodate all these new weapons we have. We lost that smash-mouth mentality in the process. That phyiscalness we played with and put on display every game last year has been missing for extended periods of time this year, especially since CK has been the starter. That makes us more susceptible to getting out-physicaled, like we saw from the Giants and the 'Hawks. The Hawks did to us what we normally do to other teams. This offense has no real identity, even this late into the year. Most teams know who they are at this point. One drive, I think Chip Kelly is the OC. Next drive, it looks like its Marty Ball. There is no cohensive offensive flow to the play-calls....no identity to why we do, what we do, and when we do it. Its my biggest worry for this team, heading into our first playoff game. [/QUOTE]
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