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One clue as to how the Packers could fare with their new 3-4 defense is to compare their projected starting lineup with those of the other top estalbished 3-4's around the league. The Green Bay D looks as follows: Ends- B.J. Raji (6-2,337), Cullen Jenkins (6-2,305), Johnny Jolly (6-3,320), Justin Harrell (6-4,320). NT- Ryan Pickett (6-2,330), Raji. OLB - Aaron Kampman (6-4,265), Clay Matthews (6-3,245). ILB- A.J. Hawk (6-1,248), Nick Barnett (6-2,336) CB- Charles Woodson (6-1,202), Al Harris (6-1,190). FS- Nick Collins (5-11,207), SS- Atari Bigby (5-11,213.) COORDINATOR - Dom Capers. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: ENDS- AAron Smith (6-5,298), Brett Keisel (6-5,285) NT- Casey Hampton (6-1,325) OLB- James Harrison (6-0,242), Lamarr Woodley (6-2,265). ILB- James Farrior (6-2,243), Lawrence Timmons (6-1,234.) CB- Ike Taylor (6-2,195), William Gay (5-10,190). FS Troy Palamalu (5-10,207), SS Ryan Clark (5-11,205) COORDINATOR- **** LeBeau. BALTIMORE RAVENS: ENDS - Haloti Ngata (6-4,335), Trevor Pryce (6-5,290). NT- Kelly Gregg (6-0,315). OLB- Terrell Suggs (6-3,260), Jarrett Johnson (6-3,265). ILB- Ray Lewis (6-1,250), Tavares Gooden (6-1,235). CB- Fabian Washington (5-11,180), Dominique Foxworth (5-11,180), FS- Ed Reed (5-11,200), SS- Dawan Landry (6-0,220) COORDINATOR-Greg Mattison. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: ENDS- Richard Seymour (6-6,310), Ty Warren (65,300), NT Vince Wilfork (6-2,325). OLB- Adalius Thomas (6-2,270), Pierre Woods (6-5,250), ILB- Tedy Bruschi (6-1,247), Jerod Mayo (6-1,242). CB- Leigh Bodden (6-1,193), Jonathan Wilhite (5-11,185). FS- Brandon Meriwether (5-11,200). SS- James Sanders(5-10,210.) COORDINATOR-Dean Pees. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS: ENDS- Luis Castillo (6-3,303),Ryon Bingham (6-3,303). NT- Jamaal Williams (6-3,348). OLB- Shawne Merriman (6-4,265), Shawn Phillips (6-3,262). ILB- Stephen Cooper (6-1,235), Tim Dobbins (6-1,246). CB- Antonio Cromartie (6-2,203), Quentin Jammer (6-0,204). FS- Clinton Hart (6-0,208), SS Eric Weddle (5-11,200) COORDINATOR- Ron Rivera. DALLAS COWBOYS: ENDS- Marcus Spears (6-4,315), Igor Olshansky (6-6,309). NT- Jay Ratliffe (6-4,302). OLB- DeMarus Ware (6-4,262), Anthony Spencer (6-3,255). ILB- Keith Brooking (6-2,241), James Bradie (6-2,245). CB- Terence Newman (511,190), Mike Jenkins (5-10,190) FS- Ken Hamlin (6-2,208), SS Gerald Sensabaugh (6-0,204) COORDINATOR- Wade Phillips.
 

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3-4 D weight (according to respective official websites):

Steelers
LDE - 298
DT - 325
RDE - 285
LOLB - 265
MLB - 243
MLB - 234
ROLB - 242

DL = 908
LB = 984
total = 1892

Cowboys
LDE - 315
NT - 302
RDE - 309
LOLB - 255
MLB - 245
MLB - 241
ROLB - 262

DL = 926
LB = 1003
total = 1929

Patriots
LDE - 300
NT - 325
RDE - 310
LOLB - 250
MLB - 247
MLB - 242
ROLB - 270

DL = 935
LB = 1009
total = 1944

Ravens
LDE - 290
NT - 345
RDE - 315
LOLB - 265
MLB - 250
MLB - 265
ROLB - 260

DL = 950
LB = 1040
total = 1990

Packers
LDE - 337 - 320
NT - 330
RDE - 305
LOLB - 265
MLB - 236
MLB - 248
ROLB - 270 - 245

DL = 972 - 955
LB = 1019 - 994
total = Jolly + CM3 = 1949
Jolly + Thompson = 1974
Raji + CM3 = 1966
Raji + Thompson = 1991
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I could say we're gonna be more like the Ravens, who play more 4-3 stances than the others, and have heavier players. However, the nickel formation with the DE's standing up is typical NE. Of course, that was in OTA, and probably Capers only worked that so he could see how our OLB would fare. The truth is Capers is a very smart coach, and will probably come up with something unique for us.
 

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I believe that a lot of people are overlooking how much the Packers are going to miss Kampman's pressure on the QB with him playing totally out of position.

They were not very good at stopping the run and now they are taking their biggest pass defense threat and backed him away from the thing that he does best.
 
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Kampman may bring more pressure in the new scheme. They'll put him on the line frequently and will rush him from the olb position as well. Playing the same position and role hasn't kept Shawne Merriman, Adalius Thomas, Terrell Suggs, DeMarcus Ware or James Harrison from getting to the quarterback in those other 3-4's. The Packers will likely play a generous 4-3 alignment in their D. Kampman will come up at end, Jenkins & Raji will move to the tackles and they can meet at the quarterback.
 

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Kampman may bring more pressure in the new scheme. They'll put him on the line frequently and will rush him from the olb position as well. Playing the same position and role hasn't kept Shawne Merriman, Adalius Thomas, Terrell Suggs, DeMarcus Ware or James Harrison from getting to the quarterback in those other 3-4's. The Packers will likely play a generous 4-3 alignment in their D. Kampman will come up at end, Jenkins & Raji will move to the tackles and they can meet at the quarterback.

I agree, there are several ends who become outside linebackers and they have no trouble getting in their sacks.
 

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The 3-4 is really good for stopping the run, just need extremely good OLB to keep the pass rush pressure up.
 
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I don't worry about how well Kampman will rush the passer or play the run in the 3-4 but how he will fare dropping into coverage.
That's going to be the big transition for him.
 

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