Firethorn1001
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Id be shocked if McCoy isn't picked by Dallas. Jerry loves to pick guys with questionable medicals
Agreed and it’s just good planning. There are no guarantees that a guy will stick with the Packers (true for any team).Very typical for the Packers to draft position where they have expiring contracts coming up
From the descriptions I’ve read about McCoy’s knee, I’d pass on him.I just watched an interview of someone talking about McCoy's injury. Eventually he is going to need another surgery, and he would miss a full year to have it done. Also, if it doesn't work, there's a good chance his career would be over. I guess this really puts in perspective why he hasn't been drafted.
If he fell to the 3rd or 4th round, he might be worth the risk. IMO, without a R1 pick, Gluten didn’t gamble and took Cisse. Good move.I'd take McCoy next, unless his knee(s?) won't let him ever perform in the NFL. When else will Gute have a shot at a top-10-talent CB? Both Valentine & Nixon are FA in '27, need better talent in the pipeline.
Yeah I don’t know what’s up with Lloyd. I’d love to see him play.Well he looks average on paper.
That 6'8" 330 pound DT/DE from ol miss wouldve been better..... That's the kind of guy who will reach up and blot out the sun....
Last time GB answered my dreams was Marshawn Lloyd. Hopefully that pick pays off this year finally. Yikes.
I like the Thieneman pick for the Bears. Most of their off-season moves should be on defense.love Cisse in the 2nd, like but don’t love McClellan with our 3rd
Across the division, I’m huge on Banks’ upside but that’s a VERY risky pick for Minnesota imo. But outside of that I really like their draft overall
Detroit, I feel like they have kinda reached on both their picks
Chicago… a lot of folks like the Thieneman pick, and he is a good player, but imo they had much more pressing needs to address. Or maybe that’s not the right way of putting it. Safety was a big need. I think there was much better positional value that could’ve been addressed. Outside of that pick I think they’re having a shocking draft with a depth center, a 3rd TE, and a WR who most had given a 7th round or UDFA grade.
(And I should note those last three are all arguably reaches… on offense… when you already had a great offense but desperately needed help all around the defense)
I noticed early on in many interactive Mocks that I’d go after CB 2X but like by as early as RD5 etc. I think Packers will take Demmings if available using #153 in some capacity either trade up or natural. There’s also a large selection ranked in the 200’s (draftable).I'm for OL and another CB, we have to improve our depth on the line, and I want more swings in the secondary after last years debacle.
When a team moves up only a few picks, it’s easy to ask if the trade was worth it.Good. Thank you Oldschool. That's what I was hoping to see. If they gave up our 4th for that I would've been a bit upset. That extra 5th is doable.
I like the pick. 6'4" 317 is a solid frame. At a position of need. Can't complain.
It’s possible CB has a lot of guys when the draft is done (along with any UDFAs), but I don’t consider that “deep”. Probably just semantics. When I hear a team is “deep” at a position, that means “talented” to me.I noticed early on in many interactive Mocks that I’d go after CB 2X but like by as early as RD5 etc. I think Packers will take Demmings if available using #153 in some capacity either trade up or natural. There’s also a large selection ranked in the 200’s (draftable).
It’s certainly possible that CB will be our deepest group when this draft concludes.
I think the same way. I dislike using limited darts because you trust your process. Although when I saw The Vikings go after Dominique Orange a couple of picks later? Those 2 players are similar roles and we at minimum deleted their options.When a team moves up only a few picks, it’s easy to ask if the trade was worth it.
This is where we have to trust the scouts. They may have been jumping for joy that they got the guy they really wanted in rd2.
I think I’d push back a little. When is the last time GB added a pair of Top 100 drafted CB’s from any means? Call it trade or draft?It’s possible CB has a lot of guys at CB, but I don’t consider that “deep”. Probably just semantics. When I hear a team is “deep” at a position that equates to talent.
Regardless, it’s a group needing and getting a lot of Gluten’s attention. No clear winners, and that should result in better play from Nixon and V.
So it was a smart to move up and take the one you wanted for a 5th imhoBrian is giving Gannon all the tools to be successful with a pair of Day 2 picks.
I think the same way. I dislike using limited darts because you trust your process. Although when I saw The Vikings go after Dominique Orange a couple of picks later? Those 2 players are similar roles and we at minimum deleted their options.
Basically gave up #84, #160 and Wicks for McClellan, # 153 and 2027 day 3 pick.What did we give for him? Hope it wasn't much.
McClellan gives you versatility and more of a 3 down DL. I think he is in that Kenny Clark mode of you can play him at nose or 3T, with pass rush. (8.5 sacks over last 2 seasons), plus he had 5 batted balls added to that. Are we going to resign Wyatt or Brooks after this year? This gives you that flexibility to walk away if you want to. Plus Hargrave is only a 2 yr deal, so we could part ways after this season, too. Orange is more a one trick pony and is going to play at most, maybe 15-20 snaps/game, and doesn't offer much in pass rush.So it was a smart to move up and take the one you wanted for a 5th imho
No question about it. The more I look at that comparison and it’s a good one, the more I think we got the better one.McClellan gives you versatility and more of a 3 down DL. I think he is in that Kenny Clark mode of you can play him at nose or 3T, with pass rush. (8.5 sacks over last 2 seasons), plus he had 5 batted balls added to that. Are we going to resign Wyatt or Brooks after this year? This gives you that flexibility to walk away if you want to. Plus Hargrave is only a 2 yr deal, so we could part ways after this season, too. Orange is more a one trick pony and is going to play at most, maybe 15-20 snaps/game, and doesn't offer much in pass rush.
It's not a shock that McClellan was ranked higher on many experts boards. I just think as a whole, everyone loved Orange, as he was a more polarizing player... with an awesome nickname to boot, Big Citrus.No question about it. The more I look at that comparison and it’s a good one, the more I think we got the better one.
SEC (McClellan)
6.0 Sacks
8.0 TFL
48 Tackles
21 QB Pressures
27 STOPS
2 PD
BIG 12 (Orange)
0 Sacks
0.5 TFL
19 Tackles
13 QB pressures
4 STOPS
1 PD
Now granted both are used in different roles. Orange is a true NT. Yet it’s undeniable who the better player is imo.
Yes but Chris will make a name for himself at the Pro level! lolIt's not a shock that McClellan was ranked higher on many experts boards. I just think as a whole, everyone loved Orange, as he was a more polarizing player... with an awesome nickname to boot, Big Citrus.
That is definitely the plan moving forward.... maybe Big Mac for a nicknameYes but Chris will make a name for himself at the Pro level! lol
Very true. I actually watched some highlights on him and listened to gute talk about him in the presser...When a team moves up only a few picks, it’s easy to ask if the trade was worth it.
This is where we have to trust the scouts. They may have been jumping for joy that they got the guy they really wanted in rd2.
McClellan is going to be a stud for us.I just watched an interview of someone talking about McCoy's injury. Eventually he is going to need another surgery, and he would miss a full year to have it done. Also, if it doesn't work, there's a good chance his career would be over. I guess this really puts in perspective why he hasn't been drafted.
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Great One!That is definitely the plan moving forward.... maybe Big Mac for a nickname
GB lost multiple partial years with Watson, & 2 complete years on Lloyd, so far. McCoy's talent is top-10 &, imho, worth the risk. Get him fixed now, & by next March his future should be pretty much known. Make re-signing decisions on Valentine & Nixon, then, knowing McCoy will (or won't) be ready.I just watched an interview of someone talking about McCoy's injury. Eventually he is going to need another surgery, and he would miss a full year to have it done. Also, if it doesn't work, there's a good chance his career would be over. I guess this really puts in perspective why he hasn't been drafted.
Personal knowing his (McCoy)medicals at earliest he’s a #153 with a slight move up for us. Other teams do have more draft capital though.GB lost multiple partial years with Watson, & 2 complete years on Lloyd, so far. McCoy's talent is top-10 &, imho, worth the risk. Get him fixed now, & by next March his future should be pretty much known. Make re-signing decisions on Valentine & Nixon, then, knowing McCoy will (or won't) be ready.
*** EDIT*** Moot point, McCoy is a Raider.