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<blockquote data-quote="Thirteen Below" data-source="post: 1066602" data-attributes="member: 18006"><p>A few more tidbits from the last couple of days...</p><p></p><p>First of all, Matt announced he will definitely play the starters on Saturday, but he's not sure how long. He cited statistics that show players who do not play at all in pre-season are significantly more likely to suffer soft-tissue injuries in the first part of the regular season. There was a significant spike in early soft-tissue injuries in 2020, the year without a training camp or pre-season, compared to 19, 21, 22, and 23.</p><p></p><p>And speaking of injuries... we've got a ton. Travis Gordon, a depth OL, is out for the season with a torn lat. But what is more concerning is that Reed (foot), McKinney (calf), Wicks (calf), and Jenkins (back) are all questionable for Week 1, and Hobbs is out indefinitely with a knee (but probably not a longterm issue). Colin Oliver and John Williams are on the PUP list, and Rasheed Walker and Emmanuel Wilson are out with no word on how long. (Edit: Walker returned today).</p><p></p><p>That season opener with Detroit is looking tougher all the time.</p><p></p><p>With Mr. X out, the younger safeties are getting a chance to step up, and Bullard and Oladapo are making plays, and getting reps with the 1s. Nixon was out for a "veteran's rest" day, and Melton was paired with Valentine on the first team. Bo intercepted a red zone pass meant for Hicks, and then broke up a pass to Heath in the end zone. He may actually come out of camp as the #4 CB.</p><p></p><p>Competition is intense on the one-on-one passing drills. Matchups the last couple of days have included Doubs vs Valentine, Reed vs King, Hardman vs Bullard, and the best ones appear to be Golden vs Nixon. They ran 3 reps on Wednesday, and Nixon broke up the first two deep balls before Golden outfought him for the 3rd one. King is having an excellent 2nd year camp, too. Lafleur singled out Bullard, saying he's having "an outstanding camp".</p><p></p><p>Doubs is having a hell of a camp, too. He worked out a lot in California with Love, and Love and Lafleur both spoke of how much better his route-running is this year. Reporters say there's not a day goes by that he doesn't make at least one highlight-reel type play.</p><p></p><p>John Fitzpatrick may be gaining ground on Ben Sims for #3 TE. At the start of camp, he was seen as a blocking tight end, but he's been steadily improving as a receiver, and has made some very good plays. He's even run some plays out of the backfield. If he can truly be trusted as a legitimate 2-tool TE, that may be his meal ticket. Sims was a much better receiver in college, and faster, but it sounds like Fitzpatrick is the one who is getting open and catching the passes in camp.</p><p></p><p>Van Ness continues to dominate his end of the D line, and he beat his man to stuff Jacobs twice on the same series. Also notched another safety. On the other end, Gary "sacked" Love on two consecutive plays.</p><p></p><p>The loudest noise coming from the D is from the 2nd level, where competition for the linebackers is still intense. McDuffie may be the #3 LB on the depth chart, but Isiah Simmons has his own ideas about that. Lafleur and Hafley seem to be deliberately creating a head-to-head dogfight between the two of them, to see which one wants it more. Simmons is definitely rising to the challenge, and making a number of plays.</p><p></p><p>But the big news on the linebackers continues to be Cooper - he is on a rampage, all over the field like there's two of him out there. His anticipation of plays is exceptional, and with his explosive speed off the ball, he's often in the backfield before his man is even out of his stance.</p><p></p><p>He's primed for a strong sophomore season, and mentally prepared to excel.</p><p></p><p>"I feel like the sky's the limit," Cooper said. "Now, I'm coming for it all. I feel like I have so much more left in my tank. I don't like to stay comfortable at all. I just want to attack it more."</p><p></p><p>======================================</p><p>This isn't the Packers' training camp, but some perhaps ominous news coming out of the Chicago camp. Ben Johnson is demanding his players practice intensely and physically in camp, because that's what he wants his team to be in games. The first day of that mandate, they ran live t6ackling drills in game-like conditions, and there were multiple scuffles and 4 outright fights between teammates.</p><p></p><p>Reporters and vloggers came away quite surprised; one said it was the most physical practice he's ever seen, and another said he's never seen "such a violent practice".</p><p></p><p>On the one hand, this is the sort of thing that can create a lot oftension and friction (especially on a team where players have been taking shots at one anotrher in the media for a couple of years), but at ther same time, I'm not looking forward to that team teeing off on Love twice a year. The rivalry may get dialed up a notch or two this season.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thirteen Below, post: 1066602, member: 18006"] A few more tidbits from the last couple of days... First of all, Matt announced he will definitely play the starters on Saturday, but he's not sure how long. He cited statistics that show players who do not play at all in pre-season are significantly more likely to suffer soft-tissue injuries in the first part of the regular season. There was a significant spike in early soft-tissue injuries in 2020, the year without a training camp or pre-season, compared to 19, 21, 22, and 23. And speaking of injuries... we've got a ton. Travis Gordon, a depth OL, is out for the season with a torn lat. But what is more concerning is that Reed (foot), McKinney (calf), Wicks (calf), and Jenkins (back) are all questionable for Week 1, and Hobbs is out indefinitely with a knee (but probably not a longterm issue). Colin Oliver and John Williams are on the PUP list, and Rasheed Walker and Emmanuel Wilson are out with no word on how long. (Edit: Walker returned today). That season opener with Detroit is looking tougher all the time. With Mr. X out, the younger safeties are getting a chance to step up, and Bullard and Oladapo are making plays, and getting reps with the 1s. Nixon was out for a "veteran's rest" day, and Melton was paired with Valentine on the first team. Bo intercepted a red zone pass meant for Hicks, and then broke up a pass to Heath in the end zone. He may actually come out of camp as the #4 CB. Competition is intense on the one-on-one passing drills. Matchups the last couple of days have included Doubs vs Valentine, Reed vs King, Hardman vs Bullard, and the best ones appear to be Golden vs Nixon. They ran 3 reps on Wednesday, and Nixon broke up the first two deep balls before Golden outfought him for the 3rd one. King is having an excellent 2nd year camp, too. Lafleur singled out Bullard, saying he's having "an outstanding camp". Doubs is having a hell of a camp, too. He worked out a lot in California with Love, and Love and Lafleur both spoke of how much better his route-running is this year. Reporters say there's not a day goes by that he doesn't make at least one highlight-reel type play. John Fitzpatrick may be gaining ground on Ben Sims for #3 TE. At the start of camp, he was seen as a blocking tight end, but he's been steadily improving as a receiver, and has made some very good plays. He's even run some plays out of the backfield. If he can truly be trusted as a legitimate 2-tool TE, that may be his meal ticket. Sims was a much better receiver in college, and faster, but it sounds like Fitzpatrick is the one who is getting open and catching the passes in camp. Van Ness continues to dominate his end of the D line, and he beat his man to stuff Jacobs twice on the same series. Also notched another safety. On the other end, Gary "sacked" Love on two consecutive plays. The loudest noise coming from the D is from the 2nd level, where competition for the linebackers is still intense. McDuffie may be the #3 LB on the depth chart, but Isiah Simmons has his own ideas about that. Lafleur and Hafley seem to be deliberately creating a head-to-head dogfight between the two of them, to see which one wants it more. Simmons is definitely rising to the challenge, and making a number of plays. But the big news on the linebackers continues to be Cooper - he is on a rampage, all over the field like there's two of him out there. His anticipation of plays is exceptional, and with his explosive speed off the ball, he's often in the backfield before his man is even out of his stance. He's primed for a strong sophomore season, and mentally prepared to excel. "I feel like the sky's the limit," Cooper said. "Now, I'm coming for it all. I feel like I have so much more left in my tank. I don't like to stay comfortable at all. I just want to attack it more." ====================================== This isn't the Packers' training camp, but some perhaps ominous news coming out of the Chicago camp. Ben Johnson is demanding his players practice intensely and physically in camp, because that's what he wants his team to be in games. The first day of that mandate, they ran live t6ackling drills in game-like conditions, and there were multiple scuffles and 4 outright fights between teammates. Reporters and vloggers came away quite surprised; one said it was the most physical practice he's ever seen, and another said he's never seen "such a violent practice". On the one hand, this is the sort of thing that can create a lot oftension and friction (especially on a team where players have been taking shots at one anotrher in the media for a couple of years), but at ther same time, I'm not looking forward to that team teeing off on Love twice a year. The rivalry may get dialed up a notch or two this season. [/QUOTE]
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