2025 Roster - Semi Live Thread <closed>

[Pokerbrat2000]

Obviously, Kinnard is on the 53 now. Possibly, an injury to an OT we aren't aware of? Or, they just like Kinnard's potential better than the guy that would have been last on the 53 OL depth chart?

 

[tynimiller]

Maybe he can play guard. Otherwise hard to figure

He hasn't really been anything but the Eagles were playing him at guard this preseason after previously using him as a back up tackle in other years.

 

[Pkrjones]

He hasn't really been anything but the Eagles were playing him at guard this preseason after previously using him as a back up tackle in other years.

Hard to think he's better than or has more upside than Telfort? Wonder if this means Rasheed Walker is moving on & depth is necessary?

 

[tynimiller]

Hard to think he's better than or has more upside than Telfort? Wonder if this means Rasheed Walker is moving on & depth is necessary?

He isn't a tackle...this has to be guard depth. Wonder if Monk is on way out.

 

[DoURant]

He is 3 for 3 starting his NFL career in Super Bowls. 2 rings with the Chiefs and then 1 last year with the Eagles.... now he didn't play in any of the games, but hey, that's beside the point. I also heard he requested to be traded to the Packers so he can go 4 for 4 in his career

 

[Pkrjones]

He isn't a tackle...this has to be guard depth. Wonder if Monk is on way out.

His '22 Draft Buzz write up says he's 6'-5", 322 lbs. REALLY good pass blocker & even better run blocker... "an old school mauler". Maybe you're correct about IOL depth. Monk & Jennings did nothing to stand out or show they can play on Sundays. Lecitus Smith looked OK at OC so could see a GB future for him... so maybe Kinnard is our swing-guard?

 

[OldSchool101]

He isn't a tackle...this has to be guard depth. Wonder if Monk is on way out.

Monk very well could be out. (As reported by Adam Schefter a couple hours ago) He’s not looked good.
Not sure what you mean by not a Tackle? He’s played extensively played Tackle as recently as the last Regular season game. AP All American at RT 2X

 

[OldSchool101]

His '22 Draft Buzz write up says he's 6'-5", 322 lbs. REALLY good pass blocker & even better run blocker... "an old school mauler". Maybe you're correct about IOL depth. Monk & Jennings did nothing to stand out or show they can play on Sundays. Lecitus Smith looked OK at OC so could see a GB future for him... so maybe Kinnard is our swing-guard?

Yes. He’s a Tackle by trade. He even played RT for Philly earlier this year. However in GB, he’s highly likely reducing inside to Guard.

 

[Thirteen Below]

They're saying Monk has a hamstring injury, so it's possible that if they really want to give him another chance they coud stash him on IR for a while. But either way, this isn't good news for him.

 

[milani]

Obviously, Kinnard is on the 53 now. Possibly, an injury to an OT we aren't aware of? Or, they just like Kinnard's potential better than the guy that would have been last on the 53 OL depth chart?

Some are saying he could also be used at guard. Maybe as a short yardage or goal line blocker.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm glad they are still concerned about the O line and not just saying they are going to bring someone along for several years. But mainly I hope this guy can play

 

[milani]

I'm glad they are still concerned about the O line and not just saying they are going to bring someone along for several years. But mainly I hope this guy can play

Well, he had to do something right to be on the roster he was the last 3 seasons. He may be able to move the pile enough so that even an average QB or RB can get a first down. 4th and inches...do you run behind him?

 

[Voyageur]

Kinnard's contract is a tad over $1 mill this year and he's a restricted free agent after this season. So, even if they kept him for this season and lost him FA next year, he could bring them a replacement pick not unlike they gave up getting him.

This is not a bad investment considering it gives them some additional bodies and depth on the offensive line. It's possible that the coaching staff was a bit concerned about it, and I dare say this will probably spell the end of Monk being in Green Bay.

 

[gopkrs]

If he's good it's good. If he's not it's not

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Maybe he can play guard. Otherwise hard to figure

What are you saying? You think Gute brought him in to be a starter right away? Obviously this is for depth. Luke Butkus just said the other day they aren't satisfied with the depth on the OL, and they shouldn't have been. Great move here by Gute, makes perfect sense.

Kinnard is versatile and can be plugged in at both tackle and guard in case of injury.

Travis Glover is on IR and John Williams in on PUP.

Morgan, Banks, Elgton, Rhyan, Tom, Belton, Monk, Kinnard, and Sheed are your top 9. That looks better than it did on Saturday. Again, Gute doing Gute things, bravo.

Donovan Jennings, Brant Banks, Telfort, Cooper, Smith, Hill, & Lippe are all no longer having 53 dreams. We will see if any make the 69.

Fun fact: Darian Kinnard is related to Dolly Parton.

 

[Voyageur]

What are you saying? You think Gute brought him in to be a starter right away? Obviously this is for depth. Luke Butkus just said the other day they aren't satisfied with the depth on the OL, and they shouldn't have been. Great move here by Gute, makes perfect sense.

Kinnard is versatile and can be plugged in at both tackle and guard in case of injury.

Travis Glover is on IR and John Williams in on PUP.

Morgan, Banks, Elgton, Rhyan, Tom, Belton, Monk, Kinnard, and Sheed are your top 9. That looks better than it did on Saturday. Again, Gute doing Gute things, bravo.

Donovan Jennings, Brant Banks, Telfort, Cooper, Smith, Hill, & Lippe are all no longer having 53 dreams. We will see if any make the 69.

Fun fact: Darian Kinnard is related to Dolly Parton.

Exactly on Kinnard. Now they don't have to worry about having Morgan as the back up at LT. That's Kinnard's role at this point. Morgan can now be slotted in at a guard position which means that they can use Rhyan at center if needed and Monk became expendable. Belton can be worked as the back up at right tackle.

This move is a one player move that greatly increases the depth across the entire line.

 

[tynimiller]

Folks, yes in the past he was a deep depth tackle and even saw very minimal playing time - BUT this year in the preseason 70% of his snaps were RG with only one game really (outside of 3 snaps) seeing tackle reps.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Now they don't have to worry about having Morgan as the back up at LT.

They were never worried about Morgan in any way. Morgan will be the starter at LT against Lions in 13 days.

If Sheed gets the nod, I will congratulate him, but I would be TOTALLY shocked.

Kinnard is depth at both tackle and guard. I have Kinnard backing up Sean Rhyan at RG on my current depth chart.

My depth chart never lies

 

[tynimiller]

There are two justifiable reasonings with sound logic which supports the Kinnard signing.....

#1 - We simply are not happy with our depth...whether that be at guard or at tackle. However, I've heard promising things about guys like Telfort and Jennings especially and the house is still excited to see what the rookie Williams will be once healed and back....BUT it could simply be that depth piece move.

#2 - It is setting up a move of either Rhyan or Walker. The team has been quite happy internally with Morgan (1 pressure given up all of PS) and Belton has been awesome for a rookie (outside of pre snap **** he needs to clean up)....Rhyan is the easier guy to walk from and likely not feel it, but Walker gets the most in a return. Now I will say I don't think option #2 means it is a sure thing right now before season...but could be a move by Gute and Co. knowing the horizon and what could be a very smart move to recoup picks quicker than waiting for "maybe getting 2027 comp picks".

Kinnard is not a starter...but is an interesting experienced-ish backup that shores up depth.....it is a very odd move unless we have an unforeseen cut or trade incoming.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

There are two justifiable reasonings with sound logic which supports the Kinnard signing.....

#1 - We simply are not happy with our depth...whether that be at guard or at tackle. However, I've heard promising things about guys like Telfort and Jennings especially and the house is still excited to see what the rookie Williams will be once healed and back....BUT it could simply be that depth piece move.

#2 - It is setting up a move of either Rhyan or Walker. The team has been quite happy internally with Morgan (1 pressure given up all of PS) and Belton has been awesome for a rookie (outside of pre snap **** he needs to clean up)....Rhyan is the easier guy to walk from and likely not feel it, but Walker gets the most in a return. Now I will say I don't think option #2 means it is a sure thing right now before season...but could be a move by Gute and Co. knowing the horizon and what could be a very smart move to recoup picks quicker than waiting for "maybe getting 2027 comp picks".

Kinnard is not a starter...but is an interesting experienced-ish backup that shores up depth.....it is a very odd move unless we have an unforeseen cut or trade incoming.

No way in hell Rhyan is moved. Not much chance for Sheed leaving immediately either. Sheed is gone after the season.

Kinnard was 100% added for depth, which was lacking. Luke Butkus publicly said they are not satisfied with the OL depth. The end.

Gute may keep 10 OL on the 53, but the following are the 9 locks, in my opinion.

Morgan
Banks
Elgton
Rhyan
Tom
Belton
Monk
Kinnard
Sheed

 

[tynimiller]

No way in hell Rhyan is moved. Not much chance for Sheed leaving immediately either. Sheed is gone after the season.

Kinnard was 100% added for depth, which was lacking. Luke Butkus publicly said they are not satisfied with the OL depth. The end.

Gute may keep 10 OL on the 53, but the following are the 9 locks, in my opinion.

Morgan
Banks
Elgton
Rhyan
Tom
Belton
Monk
Kinnard
Sheed

Your opening statement is something I was told constantly about some in the past as well....shoot one past member here could not stand that I brought forth the idea of the Davante trade before it ever happened.

I also know of the interview you are discussing with Butkus, there is a massive difference between being satisfied and believing every back up sucks. It is extremely rare that any coach just comes out and bluntly states 100% the truth either - that would be disrespectful to the players at times and at other times management. The depth of the team is more so impacted due to some injuries and discipline (pre snap) primarily.

To state in such a 100% way that Rhyan nor Walker get moved is just hilarious and misplaced. I personally don't believe Gute wants to trade either, but he also doesn't want to just watch countless guys leave with nothing in return guaranteed either....and even if you do get something it isn't until 2027 draft.

Your nine is only different than my 9 locks by one person I have Telfort in and Monk out.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Packers trade a 2027 6th round pick to the Eagles for OT Darian Kinnard.

I saw this last night. I'm not sure what to make of it, especially two days before cutdowns. Is Gluten going to put him on the 53? I'd guess the answer is yes but it's just strange timing.

 

[Firethorn1001]

I saw this last night. I'm not sure what to make of it, especially two days before cutdowns. Is Gluten going to put him on the 53? I'd guess the answer is yes but it's just strange timing.

Where else is he going to put him? Unless the pick was conditional they aren't going to trade for him then cut him 24 hours later so yes, he is on the 53.

Not sure why the timing is strange? This is when moves like this (trading day 3 picks) would happen.

 

[milani]

There are two justifiable reasonings with sound logic which supports the Kinnard signing.....

#1 - We simply are not happy with our depth...whether that be at guard or at tackle. However, I've heard promising things about guys like Telfort and Jennings especially and the house is still excited to see what the rookie Williams will be once healed and back....BUT it could simply be that depth piece move.

#2 - It is setting up a move of either Rhyan or Walker. The team has been quite happy internally with Morgan (1 pressure given up all of PS) and Belton has been awesome for a rookie (outside of pre snap **** he needs to clean up)....Rhyan is the easier guy to walk from and likely not feel it, but Walker gets the most in a return. Now I will say I don't think option #2 means it is a sure thing right now before season...but could be a move by Gute and Co. knowing the horizon and what could be a very smart move to recoup picks quicker than waiting for "maybe getting 2027 comp picks".

Kinnard is not a starter...but is an interesting experienced-ish backup that shores up depth.....it is a very odd move unless we have an unforeseen cut or trade incoming.

Will not be surprised if we see Kinnard getting a lot of PT this season for one reason or another.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Will not be surprised if we see Kinnard getting a lot of PT this season for one reason or another.

I hope not, because that probably means a starter went down with an injury. However, the likelihood of that is somewhat high, so I agree with you, Kinnard will most likely see snaps.