2025 Roster - Semi Live Thread <closed>

[Sunshinepacker]

Pretty sure you are incorrect.

While they can change who they are protecting each week, at no time can any of the 4 players that are protected, be signed by another team. So basically, "No, there isn't a 24 hour window where the entire PS is available to be poached."

The window you talk about would be silly, why have any protection at all, if such a window exists?

From ESPN article posted yesterday on practice squad:

• Every Tuesday, teams can designate four players as protected, so they can't be placed on another team's active roster from that day until kickoff

So I guess if the team has a Monday night game they could turn around and protect them the very next day but if the team plays on Sunday, they can't start to protect that player again until Tuesday. So the practice squad player would be unprotected on Monday.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Just my opinion, but I think it is far to early to "break glass and panic". Policy isn't going to rock the boat his first year in GB. The 2025 Packers are a much more experienced team than the 2024 Packers that finished 11-6.

As long as Love stays healthy, I think this team improves on that 11-6 and goes further into the playoffs.

Matt Schneidman (Athletic reporter covering the Packers) today on the Pat McAfee show that "their jobs are very much in the balance when it comes to how the team does this season."

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

From ESPN article posted yesterday on practice squad:

• Every Tuesday, teams can designate four players as protected, so they can't be placed on another team's active roster from that day until kickoff

So I guess if the team has a Monday night game they could turn around and protect them the very next day but if the team plays on Sunday, they can't start to protect that player again until Tuesday. So the practice squad player would be unprotected on Monday.

I read the same thing and I think all that means is that because of Monday Night Football, every team has to declare which 4 players on their PS are under protection on Tuesday.

Like I said, if there is that 24 hour window of "no protection", then it would be a useless rule to say "4 can be protected".

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Matt Schneidman (Athletic reporter covering the Packers) today on the Pat McAfee show that "their jobs are very much in the balance when it comes to how the team does this season."

His opinion, not really mine.

Sure, if the 2025 season is a flat out bust, and it isn't due to health, then yeah, everyone's job will be questioned. I don't think that would have changed under Murphy or Policy. Not to mention that it is the elected Board of Directors and their seven-member Executive Committee, that ultimately would weigh in on the future of Gute.

 

[DoURant]

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[Pokerbrat2000]

Will be interesting to see who they cut or move to IR to make room for Niemann.

He's a quality special teams guy and might have more upside than Welch on defense.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

The Texans screwed the pooch on Niemann. They had just given him a 2 year deal @ $3M/year, a $1.5M signing bonus and $4M guaranteed.

It will be interesting to see how his contract looks with the Packers and if they become the benefactor of the Texans generosity.

 

[DoURant]

Will be interesting to see who they cut or move to IR to make room for Niemann.

He's a quality special teams guy and might have more upside than Welch on defense.

I'm thinking possibly Sorrell to IR, only guy I can think of at the moment.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm thinking possibly Sorrell to IR, only guy I can think of at the moment.

That or if Wicks or Savion Williams injuries are severe enough to keep them out for an extended period of time.

 

[gopkrs]

The Texans screwed the pooch on Niemann. They had just given him a 2 year deal @ $3M/year, a $1.5M signing bonus and $4M guaranteed.

It will be interesting to see how his contract looks with the Packers and if they become the benefactor of the Texans generosity.

So your saying Houston paid him at the start of last year? And this would have been his 2nd year? And he played with the Chargers before that? In which case he must not have shown them what they wanted to see. Or he's hurt.

 

[DoURant]

Packers signing former Chargers, Texans LB Nick Niemann to 53-man roster

The Packers are signing veteran linebacker and special teamer Nick Niemann to the team's 53-man roster on Wednesday.

packerswire.usatoday.com

Was probably signed more for his Special Teams abilities, than to contribute on the Defense.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Ugg....Packers will be seeing Adam Thielen again in Purple. The Vikings traded for him with the Panthers. Sending the Panthers a fifth-round pick and a 2027 fourth-rounder in exchange for Thielen, a conditional seventh-round pick and a 2027 fifth-round pick.

He's a Packer killer!

 

[DoURant]

Just saw that Micah Robinson was released, to make room for Niemann. Hoping to add him to the Practice Squad

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Not sure if this was mentioned elsewhere, I have a few trolls on ignore.

Clayton Tune was signed to the practice squad earlier today. I like Gute going out and getting a fresh body for the 3rd string QB.

Thank god they didn't stick with Clifford another year. Need an emergency QB that isn't a total turd.

 

[Schultz]

I read the same thing and I think all that means is that because of Monday Night Football, every team has to declare which 4 players on their PS are under protection on Tuesday.

Like I said, if there is that 24 hour window of "no protection", then it would be a useless rule to say "4 can be protected".

My uneducated guess is that teams can't acquire players from practice squads until Tuesday each week.

 

[Rickusn]

Now that we are closer to a final roster there are 15 new faces(compared to the 2024 initial 53 man roster). I took the Liberty of updating with the Neiman signing.
Is this roster an upgrade over 2024?
The 15 new faces and the players they replaced or nominally replaced:
RB Brooks - Lloyd inj
TE Fitzpatrick - OL Telfort
WR Golden- Watson inj
Williams inj- Melton
OL Banks inj- Myers
Belton- Dillard
Kinnard-Glover inj
Jennings- Monk inj
DT- Brinson- Slaton
Stackhouse- DE Mosby
DE- Sorrel inj- Smith
LB - Neiman- Wilson
CB-Hobbs inj- Alexander
Melton-Stokes
Hadden- Ballentine
K- McManus- Joseph
Of course Melton is a wash faces wise.
Also injured:
Reed
Wicks
Jenkins
Alexander
Mckinney
Love

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I read the same thing and I think all that means is that because of Monday Night Football, every team has to declare which 4 players on their PS are under protection on Tuesday.

Like I said, if there is that 24 hour window of "no protection", then it would be a useless rule to say "4 can be protected".

No, it would mean the team can ensure that four players can’t be picked up that week. Your reading of the rule would be one of the most anti-player rules i can think of. It would basically amount to “no matter how good you are, you can’t go anywhere else and the team doesn’t have to give you a decent contract”.

 

[Curly Calhoun]

Not sure if this was mentioned elsewhere, I have a few trolls on ignore.

Clayton Tune was signed to the practice squad earlier today. I like Gute going out and getting a fresh body for the 3rd string QB.

Thank god they didn't stick with Clifford another year. Need an emergency QB that isn't a total turd.

Clifford in season three looked a lot like Clifford in seasons one and two...He seems to have plateaued. I think it was time to cut bait.

Elgersma was intriguing in some ways, but apparently not enough to convince the Packers he was PS-worthy.

Tune's time with the Cardinals was far from impressive, but we'll see what this coaching staff can do with him. Hopefully we'll not see him play any meaningful downs in meaningful games any time soon.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Your reading of the rule would be one of the most anti-player rules i can think of. It would basically amount to “no matter how good you are, you can’t go anywhere else and the team doesn’t have to give you a decent contract”.

LOL

You must really be opposed to the rule that doesn't allow any of the players from a 53 man roster to be poached by another team. I mean by your words "no matter how good you are, you can't go anywhere else and the team doesn't have to give you a decent contract" or play you for that matter. The NFL draft must just drive you nuts. NFL contracts? I bet you can't sleep at night? I mean how dare the NFL enslave people to a team! BTW, if you thing Practice Squad players are just being paid peanuts, check out their salaries and compare them to other football leagues and other jobs.

Let's debate the merits of the PS 4 man protection rules when we ACTUALLY know them.

 

[OldSchool101]

LOL

You must really be opposed to the rule that doesn't allow any of the players from a 53 man roster to be poached by another team. I mean by your words "no matter how good you are, you can't go anywhere else and the team doesn't have to give you a decent contract" or play you for that matter. The NFL draft must just drive you nuts. NFL contracts? I bet you can't sleep at night? I mean how dare the NFL enslave people to a team! BTW, if you thing Practice Squad players are just being paid peanuts, check out their salaries and compare them to other football leagues and other jobs.

Let's debate the merits of the PS 4 man protection rules when we ACTUALLY know them.

I want to say it’s over $45K monthly on PS. Obviously far less than making an active 53 roster all season. I don’t feel sorry for them!

 

[mradtke66]

I want to say it’s over $45K monthly on PS. Obviously far less than making an active 53 roster all season. I don’t feel sorry for them!

It is indeed a good chunk of change, but it's still anti-player to stop them make even more, particularly with how volatile being on the practice squad is.

On the practice squad, players with two or fewer years of experience make a fixed $13,000 per week, while veterans with three or more years can have a negotiable weekly salary ranging from a minimum of $17,500 to a maximum of $22,000.

A rookie would make $234,000 if he's on the PS roster the whole 18 week season. The rookie minimum is ~3.6x that at $840,000

It's either is a lot of money, but it's more than a little, ahem, to keep those players from making a full salary if another teams wants them. In more normal-people money, would you be okay with making $40,000 when you could make $143,000 the next state over?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

It is indeed a good chunk of change, but it's still anti-player to stop them make even more, particularly with how volatile being on the practice squad is.

On the practice squad, players with two or fewer years of experience make a fixed $13,000 per week, while veterans with three or more years can have a negotiable weekly salary ranging from a minimum of $17,500 to a maximum of $22,000.

A rookie would make $234,000 if he's on the PS roster the whole 18 week season. The rookie minimum is ~3.6x that at $840,000

It's either is a lot of money, but it's more than a little, ahem, to keep those players from making a full salary if another teams wants them. In more normal-people money, would you be okay with making $40,000 when you could make $143,000 the next state over?

I guess the other option for those 16 players per team is to work at a carwash, bank, etc. until such time that a team contacts them for a try-out?

Should the NFL just put an end to contracts all together? I mean how many players could be making more money, with another team, but they are stuck in a contract?

Anyone who thinks that the money that guys are being paid to be on an NFL practice squad is unfair, really need to explain to me a better system for the NFL, that would prevent players from being enslaved by teams.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Clifford in season three looked a lot like Clifford in seasons one and two...He seems to have plateaued. I think it was time to cut bait.

Elgersma was intriguing in some ways, but apparently not enough to convince the Packers he was PS-worthy.

Tune's time with the Cardinals was far from impressive, but we'll see what this coaching staff can do with him. Hopefully we'll not see him play any meaningful downs in meaningful games any time soon.

I use the preseason games to look at how far the Packer developmental QB's have or haven't come. Then I look at how other teams developmental QB's look against the Packers. Just based on the "eye test", both Clifford and Elgersma weren't very good options for a #3 QB. I also fully agree with you, unlike Elgersma, Clifford was given 2+ years to develop, with the same team and didn't.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Not too excited to see this. Jayden Reed is dealing with a Jones Fracture in his foot.

Report: Jayden Reed’s foot injury is a Jones fracture

Matt LaFleur hopes that Reed will be ready to go by Week 1 against the Detroit Lions.

www.acmepackingcompany.com

 

[mradtke66]

I guess the other option for those 16 players per team is to work at a carwash, bank, etc. until such time that a team contacts them for a try-out?

Should the NFL just put an end to contracts all together? I mean how many players could be making more money, with another team, but they are stuck in a contract?

Anyone who thinks that the money that guys are being paid to be on an NFL practice squad is unfair, really need to explain to me a better system for the NFL, that would prevent players from being enslaved by teams.

As-is is more than fine by me. They fill a role, they get paid fairly for the role. There are limits and consequences to getting promoted and protected.

The previous system was both more fair and harsher--you couldn't promote players for a week, you had to actually sign them to the active roster. The downside that they had the then be re-cut and clear wavers--harsher. The trade off was that PS squad players were free and clear to sign with any NFL team any time they wanted--more-fair.

And no, I am not advocating for canceling of all contracts. PS players are, for lack of a better term, second class citizens. To compare the two tiers of contracts is disingenuous.