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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 1020859" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Even though UTEP didn't use him in it and they may have showcased similarly at the college level, there is nothing in Corum which to me illustrates a RB with the fluid route running, footwork in running routes and such as Jones has shown he has. There is a big difference between running routes and cutting/breaking without the ball than with...Jones has excelled. Corum is rarely used in space type situations. He was used in slot or wide 7 times this year vs 431 in the backfield. I LOVE CORUM, but merely don't see the diverse RB that Jones is for that comp to be used is all.</p><p></p><p>Even my boy Trey Benson from FSU who was my favorite prospect (till Brooks declared, but his ACL causes pause) wasn't split out a lot, however when watching his film I see some more, albeit slight IMO, footwork that might translate quicker in the route department.</p><p></p><p>The diversity is why I think Bucky Irving is one of the best comps to Jones in that his usage actually illustrates that the receiving side of things is a strength of his. This year alone he saw 44 slot snaps and 51 out wide snaps! Kicked in 493 in backfield of course but to have nearly 100 snaps as a WR is saying something. (had 2 at a TE alignment too). Folks underestimate Irvings' willingness to make impacts, I see him a lot like Jones despite their size they will cause impact with heart and quickness. Irving had 54 receptions on 60 targets this year receiving which is crazy high use for a RB, and despite that still had 187 rushing attempts producing 1196 yards - he truly is a dual threat. Size for him is a concern just as it is for Corum but he is slightly slighter...he is listed at 5'10' 195lbs but folks have said he is closer if not at 200 actually and most in his camp feels he is likely to get up near 205 or so without much if any drop in his abilities. Jones is 5'9' 207lbs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Few other guys that I think Packer fans should be aware of:</p><p></p><p><strong>Audric Estime from Notre Dame</strong>....to be 5'11' and 227lbs but move like he does I'm telling you it simply shouldn't be. He can be a touch slow to digest or read but when he is running with ears pinned back this dude is arguably one of the best in the game in college. Crazy thing is in space for a bigger back his wiggle and finesse is special. While I'm unsure if he is worth it I could see a team go for him Day2 (albeit in third round) and I would understand. I have a fourth round grade on him, but easily could sneak into Day2 IMO.</p><p></p><p><strong>MarShawn Lloyd from USC</strong>....he is a running back that I think far too many is quiet on...having Caleb Williams as your QB kept the ball out of this VERY SKILLED back more than it would have with arguably anyone else as signal caller...but he still managed to be a 1,000 yard all purpose guy (816 rushing / 232 receiving) and averaged over 7 yards per carry. He is going to be at the Senior Bowl and I truly think and am projecting him to be one of the offensive guys there that will catch the attention he is deserving of. Built nearly identical to Jones, he might actually be the most comparable from a body type, play style and abilities it seems when watching him. Keep an eye and ear out for Lloyd talk, I hear the league loves him far more than a lot of "pundits" are saying and expect he will continue to climb up boards as this is confirmed more and more. I have him with a 4th but is like Estime a borderline 3rd for me.</p><p></p><p><strong>Will Shipley from Clemson</strong>...quietly all Will has done is put up consistent and productive seasons for the Tigers since 2021 he's put up 740 yards, 1171 yards and 840 yards averaging over 5 yards per carry every year for them. Tossing in 116, 237, 231 yards receiving Will is a dual threat type back. At 5'11' 205 he is again kinda in that vein of a Jones sized back, Clemson has split him out frequently over the years so the diversity of what he offers is there already and it would only be the question of can he do it in the NFL, not if he can do it at all. I have him at a 4th round grade as well.....where I see a TON of guys truthfully.</p><p></p><p>Not to go into brief thoughts on everyone my running back buckets of guys I like enough to list: *they are not listed in order within the tiers</p><p></p><p><strong>Tier 1 (only guys I have with a second round grade)</strong></p><p>Jonathon Brooks</p><p>Trey Benson</p><p></p><p><strong>Tier 2 (3rd-5th type guys)</strong></p><p>Bucky Irving</p><p>MarShawn Lloyd</p><p>Blake Corum</p><p>Audric Estime</p><p>TreVeyon Henderson</p><p>Braelon Allen</p><p>Ray Davis</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Tier 3 (Late rounders)</strong></p><p>Dylan Laube</p><p>Isaiah Davis</p><p>Blake Watson</p><p>Carson Steele</p><p></p><p></p><p>May undecided guys that would be added if they declare and also a few left to review</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 1020859, member: 6578"] Even though UTEP didn't use him in it and they may have showcased similarly at the college level, there is nothing in Corum which to me illustrates a RB with the fluid route running, footwork in running routes and such as Jones has shown he has. There is a big difference between running routes and cutting/breaking without the ball than with...Jones has excelled. Corum is rarely used in space type situations. He was used in slot or wide 7 times this year vs 431 in the backfield. I LOVE CORUM, but merely don't see the diverse RB that Jones is for that comp to be used is all. Even my boy Trey Benson from FSU who was my favorite prospect (till Brooks declared, but his ACL causes pause) wasn't split out a lot, however when watching his film I see some more, albeit slight IMO, footwork that might translate quicker in the route department. The diversity is why I think Bucky Irving is one of the best comps to Jones in that his usage actually illustrates that the receiving side of things is a strength of his. This year alone he saw 44 slot snaps and 51 out wide snaps! Kicked in 493 in backfield of course but to have nearly 100 snaps as a WR is saying something. (had 2 at a TE alignment too). Folks underestimate Irvings' willingness to make impacts, I see him a lot like Jones despite their size they will cause impact with heart and quickness. Irving had 54 receptions on 60 targets this year receiving which is crazy high use for a RB, and despite that still had 187 rushing attempts producing 1196 yards - he truly is a dual threat. Size for him is a concern just as it is for Corum but he is slightly slighter...he is listed at 5'10' 195lbs but folks have said he is closer if not at 200 actually and most in his camp feels he is likely to get up near 205 or so without much if any drop in his abilities. Jones is 5'9' 207lbs. Few other guys that I think Packer fans should be aware of: [B]Audric Estime from Notre Dame[/B]....to be 5'11' and 227lbs but move like he does I'm telling you it simply shouldn't be. He can be a touch slow to digest or read but when he is running with ears pinned back this dude is arguably one of the best in the game in college. Crazy thing is in space for a bigger back his wiggle and finesse is special. While I'm unsure if he is worth it I could see a team go for him Day2 (albeit in third round) and I would understand. I have a fourth round grade on him, but easily could sneak into Day2 IMO. [B]MarShawn Lloyd from USC[/B]....he is a running back that I think far too many is quiet on...having Caleb Williams as your QB kept the ball out of this VERY SKILLED back more than it would have with arguably anyone else as signal caller...but he still managed to be a 1,000 yard all purpose guy (816 rushing / 232 receiving) and averaged over 7 yards per carry. He is going to be at the Senior Bowl and I truly think and am projecting him to be one of the offensive guys there that will catch the attention he is deserving of. Built nearly identical to Jones, he might actually be the most comparable from a body type, play style and abilities it seems when watching him. Keep an eye and ear out for Lloyd talk, I hear the league loves him far more than a lot of "pundits" are saying and expect he will continue to climb up boards as this is confirmed more and more. I have him with a 4th but is like Estime a borderline 3rd for me. [B]Will Shipley from Clemson[/B]...quietly all Will has done is put up consistent and productive seasons for the Tigers since 2021 he's put up 740 yards, 1171 yards and 840 yards averaging over 5 yards per carry every year for them. Tossing in 116, 237, 231 yards receiving Will is a dual threat type back. At 5'11' 205 he is again kinda in that vein of a Jones sized back, Clemson has split him out frequently over the years so the diversity of what he offers is there already and it would only be the question of can he do it in the NFL, not if he can do it at all. I have him at a 4th round grade as well.....where I see a TON of guys truthfully. Not to go into brief thoughts on everyone my running back buckets of guys I like enough to list: *they are not listed in order within the tiers [B]Tier 1 (only guys I have with a second round grade)[/B] Jonathon Brooks Trey Benson [B]Tier 2 (3rd-5th type guys)[/B] Bucky Irving MarShawn Lloyd Blake Corum Audric Estime TreVeyon Henderson Braelon Allen Ray Davis [B]Tier 3 (Late rounders)[/B] Dylan Laube Isaiah Davis Blake Watson Carson Steele May undecided guys that would be added if they declare and also a few left to review [/QUOTE]
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