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<blockquote data-quote="Dantés" data-source="post: 1027627" data-attributes="member: 12283"><p>PFF's Top 50:</p><p></p><p>QB: 5</p><p>RB: 0</p><p>TE: 1</p><p>WR: 11</p><p>OT: 8</p><p>iOL: 2</p><p>DL: 4</p><p>EDGE: 7</p><p>LB: 0</p><p>CB: 9</p><p>S: 2</p><p></p><p>PFF's rankings have to be considered a little bit differently than other sources because they bake positional value really heavily into the cake. Their lists will always make it look like it's a bad year for RB, iOL, LB, etc. because they always push premium positions up their board. </p><p></p><p>Since getting into draft coverage, they have also been known to be way higher than consensus on some guys just because they graded well for them. It usually doesn't work out super well. The following examples are not just players who missed, but players who missed and who PFF had super high as opposed to everyone else:</p><p></p><p>Derek Barnett rated #3 overall in 2017</p><p>Jordan Willis rated #15 overall in 2017</p><p>Malik McDowell rated #21 overall in 2017</p><p>Maurice Hurst rated #3 overall in 2018</p><p>Josh Jackson rated #8 overall in 2018</p><p>James Washington rated #24 overall in 2018</p><p>Byron Murphy rated #6 overall in 2019</p><p>Jerry Tillery rated #7 overall in 2019</p><p>Greedy Williams rated #9 overall in 2019</p><p>A.J. Epenesa rated #14 overall in 2020</p><p>Laviska Shenault rated #15 overall in 2020</p><p>Curtis Weaver rated #17 overall in 2020 (LOL)</p><p>Julian Okwara rated #22 overall in 2020</p><p></p><p>Now it seems to be getting a little better as they learn not to weight their own grades so heavily and just rely on what everyone else relies on. But in the past, when they are way higher than a guy than consensus, run for the hills. That might sound like I'm contradicting what I said above regarding groupthink, but the problem is PFF is using the wrong basis for being bold (their grades). They thought they were going to revolutionize the draft analysis industry, but they're really just like everyone else: they hire people who know what they're looking at and those guys make assessments and factor in what they hear from the league.</p><p></p><p>So who are they really high on this year vs. consensus?</p><p></p><p>Cooper Dejean (#8)</p><p>Jer'zhan Newton (#10)</p><p>Nate Wiggins (#13)</p><p>Bralen Trice (#25)</p><p>Kamren Kinchens (#29)</p><p>Tyler Nubin (#30)</p><p></p><p>We will see how things shake out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dantés, post: 1027627, member: 12283"] PFF's Top 50: QB: 5 RB: 0 TE: 1 WR: 11 OT: 8 iOL: 2 DL: 4 EDGE: 7 LB: 0 CB: 9 S: 2 PFF's rankings have to be considered a little bit differently than other sources because they bake positional value really heavily into the cake. Their lists will always make it look like it's a bad year for RB, iOL, LB, etc. because they always push premium positions up their board. Since getting into draft coverage, they have also been known to be way higher than consensus on some guys just because they graded well for them. It usually doesn't work out super well. The following examples are not just players who missed, but players who missed and who PFF had super high as opposed to everyone else: Derek Barnett rated #3 overall in 2017 Jordan Willis rated #15 overall in 2017 Malik McDowell rated #21 overall in 2017 Maurice Hurst rated #3 overall in 2018 Josh Jackson rated #8 overall in 2018 James Washington rated #24 overall in 2018 Byron Murphy rated #6 overall in 2019 Jerry Tillery rated #7 overall in 2019 Greedy Williams rated #9 overall in 2019 A.J. Epenesa rated #14 overall in 2020 Laviska Shenault rated #15 overall in 2020 Curtis Weaver rated #17 overall in 2020 (LOL) Julian Okwara rated #22 overall in 2020 Now it seems to be getting a little better as they learn not to weight their own grades so heavily and just rely on what everyone else relies on. But in the past, when they are way higher than a guy than consensus, run for the hills. That might sound like I'm contradicting what I said above regarding groupthink, but the problem is PFF is using the wrong basis for being bold (their grades). They thought they were going to revolutionize the draft analysis industry, but they're really just like everyone else: they hire people who know what they're looking at and those guys make assessments and factor in what they hear from the league. So who are they really high on this year vs. consensus? Cooper Dejean (#8) Jer'zhan Newton (#10) Nate Wiggins (#13) Bralen Trice (#25) Kamren Kinchens (#29) Tyler Nubin (#30) We will see how things shake out. [/QUOTE]
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