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<blockquote data-quote="tynimiller" data-source="post: 983622" data-attributes="member: 6578"><p>Alright, with the legit chance Love or Rodgers isn't here for the 2023 season (personally I'd place my confidence in one of them being gone around 65%) quarterback is a position being cognizant of for the draft is a worthwhile endeavor. </p><p></p><p>Now with that said I strongly believe regardless of who is our QB in 2023 season - there is ZERO chance we decide to draft a first day QB. OL depending what we finagle with Jenkins and Yosh could QUICKLY become a desperate need IMO, Amos is most likely gone and a starting caliber S would be massive and both of our starting TEs are possibly out so a trade back or stay and draft Michael Mayer is logical far more than QB. Shoot I would say the only positions less likely for us to draft a QB Day 1 is a punter or a kicker. </p><p></p><p>So with that I remove CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson from the possibles...now sure could one of these fall to our second round pick, sure...but I still think it is a misstep to draft a QB before Day 3 personally. If you stay Rodgers you essentially know season is over if he cannot play so you sign a cheap back up (keep Danny Etling) and you try to load up and hit contributing rookies like you did in 2022...if you roll Love that is perhaps even more crucial because he isn't a HOF QB and the more talent and help you can give the better chance of success he has.</p><p></p><p>Here are three of my "guys" I like as of now at the QB position for the 2023 draft:</p><p></p><p><strong>Clayton Tune QB Houston 6'3 220lbs</strong></p><p></p><p>I'll be honest I truly think Tune has the moxy, grit and clutch ability to be the QB outside the top tier guys that we all might look back on in a few years and be wondering how he went Day 3. Now this could take time to happen depending where he ends up, but there is a lot to like out of Tune. It was his third year when he took over full responsibility of the Cougars offense and has never looked back. His last three years have shown progress across the board as a player:</p><p></p><p>2020 - (only 8 games) 170 for 285 (59.6%) / 15 TDs / 10 INTs Rating of 130.4...chipping in 253 yards on the ground with 5 TDs as well.</p><p>2021 - (14 games) 287 for 420 (68.3%) / 30 TDs / 10 INTs Rating of 158.0...chipping in 154 yards on the ground with 2 TDs as well.</p><p>2022 - (12 games) 316 for 469 (67.4%) / 37 TDs / 10 INT Rating of 158.0...chipping in 489 yards on the ground with 5 TDs as well.</p><p></p><p>Tune has zero fear of taking hits, getting hit or lowering his shoulder for a yard if you need a yard. He had to produce at a VERY high level this year as Houston had zero defensive ability and essentially Tune and the offense had to put up 30+ points to even have a shot at W for this season....all he did was deliver 7 games of 3 TDs or more through the air and their 77-63 win against SMU Tune was a walking highlight reel putting up 7 TDs through the air and 527 yards along with 111 yards on the ground and a TD. </p><p></p><p>The only knock on Tune is the only reason he doesn't go Day 2 IMO and that is his deep ball needs growth.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jake Haener QB Fresno State 6'1' 195lbs</strong></p><p></p><p>Haener is a touch shorter and a little less of an athlete than the aforementioned Tune...but this cat's arm, arm anticipation and pre-snap reading is more there than Tune illustrates. This QB produced a 4,000+ yard passing year just in 2021 (4,096yds / 33 TDs / 9 INTs / 67.1%) and followed up with a solid campaign with three less games this season (2,896yds / 20 TDs / 3 INTs / 72.0%).</p><p></p><p>I think what I love best about Haener is one play you'll see him launch a bullet on a ten yard crosser to his receiver that leaves his hand before the WR break and is on him immediately off break...then the next play he'll do a far curl route with enough zip to hit the WR before the DB in soft coverage can get there...then the next play he'll high arch drop a touch ball for a 40 yarder. He can make all the throws, it's all going to be about his progression and absorption of the next level...sitting behind a starter and learning could lead this young man to have a Jimmy G type story eventually deserving a starting job.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Jaren Hall QB BYU 6'1' 205lbs</strong></p><p></p><p>Hall is the only QB I'm going to list that I feel is worth possibly picking even for us in the third round....shoot that round is cursed right now so might as well gamble on a QB that isn't playing till 2024 at the absolute earliest. Hall is a multi-faceted QB that can hurt teams through the air and the ground a TON. Putting up 6,174 passing yards / with 65.2% completion rate and 52 TDs / 11 INTs just the last two seasons Hall has a lot to offer...and has averaged 4.5 yards per carry the last two seasons providing 653 yards and 6 TDs in that same span. *There is a chance Hall doesn't declare...he's right at that cusp of betting on himself and going back...but with more doing this it seems this year is there congestion forming at the position next year? (Bo Nix is one that comes to mind choosing to go back).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tynimiller, post: 983622, member: 6578"] Alright, with the legit chance Love or Rodgers isn't here for the 2023 season (personally I'd place my confidence in one of them being gone around 65%) quarterback is a position being cognizant of for the draft is a worthwhile endeavor. Now with that said I strongly believe regardless of who is our QB in 2023 season - there is ZERO chance we decide to draft a first day QB. OL depending what we finagle with Jenkins and Yosh could QUICKLY become a desperate need IMO, Amos is most likely gone and a starting caliber S would be massive and both of our starting TEs are possibly out so a trade back or stay and draft Michael Mayer is logical far more than QB. Shoot I would say the only positions less likely for us to draft a QB Day 1 is a punter or a kicker. So with that I remove CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, Will Levis and Anthony Richardson from the possibles...now sure could one of these fall to our second round pick, sure...but I still think it is a misstep to draft a QB before Day 3 personally. If you stay Rodgers you essentially know season is over if he cannot play so you sign a cheap back up (keep Danny Etling) and you try to load up and hit contributing rookies like you did in 2022...if you roll Love that is perhaps even more crucial because he isn't a HOF QB and the more talent and help you can give the better chance of success he has. Here are three of my "guys" I like as of now at the QB position for the 2023 draft: [B]Clayton Tune QB Houston 6'3 220lbs[/B] I'll be honest I truly think Tune has the moxy, grit and clutch ability to be the QB outside the top tier guys that we all might look back on in a few years and be wondering how he went Day 3. Now this could take time to happen depending where he ends up, but there is a lot to like out of Tune. It was his third year when he took over full responsibility of the Cougars offense and has never looked back. His last three years have shown progress across the board as a player: 2020 - (only 8 games) 170 for 285 (59.6%) / 15 TDs / 10 INTs Rating of 130.4...chipping in 253 yards on the ground with 5 TDs as well. 2021 - (14 games) 287 for 420 (68.3%) / 30 TDs / 10 INTs Rating of 158.0...chipping in 154 yards on the ground with 2 TDs as well. 2022 - (12 games) 316 for 469 (67.4%) / 37 TDs / 10 INT Rating of 158.0...chipping in 489 yards on the ground with 5 TDs as well. Tune has zero fear of taking hits, getting hit or lowering his shoulder for a yard if you need a yard. He had to produce at a VERY high level this year as Houston had zero defensive ability and essentially Tune and the offense had to put up 30+ points to even have a shot at W for this season....all he did was deliver 7 games of 3 TDs or more through the air and their 77-63 win against SMU Tune was a walking highlight reel putting up 7 TDs through the air and 527 yards along with 111 yards on the ground and a TD. The only knock on Tune is the only reason he doesn't go Day 2 IMO and that is his deep ball needs growth. [B]Jake Haener QB Fresno State 6'1' 195lbs[/B] Haener is a touch shorter and a little less of an athlete than the aforementioned Tune...but this cat's arm, arm anticipation and pre-snap reading is more there than Tune illustrates. This QB produced a 4,000+ yard passing year just in 2021 (4,096yds / 33 TDs / 9 INTs / 67.1%) and followed up with a solid campaign with three less games this season (2,896yds / 20 TDs / 3 INTs / 72.0%). I think what I love best about Haener is one play you'll see him launch a bullet on a ten yard crosser to his receiver that leaves his hand before the WR break and is on him immediately off break...then the next play he'll do a far curl route with enough zip to hit the WR before the DB in soft coverage can get there...then the next play he'll high arch drop a touch ball for a 40 yarder. He can make all the throws, it's all going to be about his progression and absorption of the next level...sitting behind a starter and learning could lead this young man to have a Jimmy G type story eventually deserving a starting job. [B]Jaren Hall QB BYU 6'1' 205lbs[/B] Hall is the only QB I'm going to list that I feel is worth possibly picking even for us in the third round....shoot that round is cursed right now so might as well gamble on a QB that isn't playing till 2024 at the absolute earliest. Hall is a multi-faceted QB that can hurt teams through the air and the ground a TON. Putting up 6,174 passing yards / with 65.2% completion rate and 52 TDs / 11 INTs just the last two seasons Hall has a lot to offer...and has averaged 4.5 yards per carry the last two seasons providing 653 yards and 6 TDs in that same span. *There is a chance Hall doesn't declare...he's right at that cusp of betting on himself and going back...but with more doing this it seems this year is there congestion forming at the position next year? (Bo Nix is one that comes to mind choosing to go back). [/QUOTE]
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