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Discussion in 'Draft Talk' started by Favre>Rodgers259, May 3, 2019.

  1. PackFan2

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    @GleefulGary, whats your thought on Bernards teammate Bradlee Anae? He dominated the senior bowl game with three sacks. He seemed to be quite during practice and showed up on gameday.
     
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    I agree and disagree with some of this

    OL for sure we need. Im against re-signing Bulaga unless he agrees to a short-term cheap deal. But if he does, we can go for his replacement somewhere in the middle of the draft or trade up down as needed.

    DL I could take, but I would put it a little further down the list as an added bonus. Seems to be more out there than people think.

    OLB/S/CB: I see little reason for much need here. Raven Green should be back, Darnell Savage did better than Nick Collins his rookie year, Adrian Amos has been outstanding, and our current OLB crew seems deep enough. At corner, well I'd take one there as a depth piece in case Kevin King went down, but it's not that high on my list.

    TE - I'm not a fan of Ebron or Eifert because the former is a butterfinger and the latter is injury prone. I'd say Tonyan is more than ready to be full-time number 1, and while I'm not sold on Sternberger yet, I think he could handle the role of TE2 just fine. I'd personally lay off of TE this off season with no Kittle or Kelce prospects out there.

    I'd say we're about set at RB

    WR I'd say is where we gotta grab the big playmakers.

    I like Binjimen Victor there. Guy is just a little smaller than Lazard but has some awesome range. Better hands and ball security and would beat out GMo in a heartbeat.

    I'd definitely take the depth at Adams 1, Lazard 2, Victor 3 and then whoever else (MVS, Kume, etc.) behind
     
  3. GleefulGary

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    I think he's good! Would probably be a good fit for Pettine, but not a real high need. Can't imagine GB drafts him.
     
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    Okay.. some draft pundits mock Laviska Shenault to the Packers.. I'm not a big fan of Shenault... I think his route running is sloppy. Additionally, in his releases hes barely pumping/moving his hands or use headfakes. I do love his toughness and has strong reliable hands. But for someone graded to go in first.. I want a blend of speed, nuisance route runner (no college wr route running will be as a pros yet) and reliable hands. He has reliable hands and toughness. i think he will run a 4.6 might slip. Time will tell if I'm right or full of it after the combine lol.
     
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    KyraReppe5 "We're going to relentlessly chase perfection."

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    I really like Shenault. I think he is raw, but I think he is more polished than Davante Adams was coming out of college. Playing at Colorado makes it hard to determine if he was facing legitimate CBs though. A 4.6 I think is a little harsh. While he is certainly not a 4.35 runner, I do not think he will run anything higher than a 4.55. The man is fast, agile and physical, but again my caution is can we evaluate that against those CBs?
     
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    I'm comparing him to Henry Ruggs and Jerry Jeudy... If you watch the 2019 film on Jeudy and Ruggs vs LSU.. its day and night. I jsut feel hes alittle overrated to be listed as top 3. I think we can evaluate his speed and route running against CBs. If you watch him vs Nebraska's (awful team) Lamar Jackson (long physical CB in this draft) he was shut down but when he went against younger cbs alot of his long catches were poor coverage/miscommunication on backend, not him running a crisp route. I dont think im harsh on him. I do think hes got great reliable hands (unlike Higgins), hes tough but also been injured. I like him.. just not as top 3 WR.
     
  7. GleefulGary

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    Well...Ruggs and Jeudy are better prospects, and more pure receivers.

    Shenault is raw, but very athletic. His 18 tape is better than his 19 tape. More of a gadget guy than a WR, but he actually has shown growth as a WR to me. I think he's a great fit for LaFleurs offense.

    Perhaps a more apt comparison for you would be Shenault and Justin Jefferson? Throw in Reagor and Hamler too. Not sure if Tee Higgins will be there, but I like him more than Shenault.
     
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    Justin Herron (OL) Wake Forest- the summary of him reminds me of how scouts talked about Bakhtiari. "Not tall enough, not long enough, not strong enough. Therefore Guard." Herron has pretty quick feet and is athletic enough to take on those speed rushers. I'm not saying hes Bak 2.0 but Id take him in 4-5th round.

    Besides KJ Hill in the 3rd round. I like Van Jefferson (WR) out of Florida also in the late second or third. Great route runner. Showed he can play on the senior bow practices (along with KJ Hill).

    Levonta Taylor (CB) Florida - Wasnt this guy supposed to be a top CB coming out of this draft? He was a 5 star HS recruit. Had a standout sophomore season but been quiet. Late round 5-7 pick. Any Gator fans add info?

    Another late-round pick prospect is Antonio Gibson (RB) out of Memphis. Was a WR turned RB. A much taller RB (6'2) but has size 220lbs. Running style reminds me of James Starks but he can run routes. Pro Comp: Jalen Hurd (Who the 49ers drafted- RB turned WR lol)
     
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    Few thoughts:

    #1 LOVE that someone else feels as I do on Van Jefferson. Obviously if we pick a WR in the 1st or 2nd round and he is there with our 3rd rounder I'd struggle to find it wise, I think he has solid NFL receiver written all over him. The blessing Green Bay has is we are not asking a WR to come in and be our #1, shoot unlike many teams that will be drafting a WR in the 1st round we aren't even asking him to be our #1 in the next 4 years...that alone I think will expedite a truly NFL starting worthy talent growth by removing a tremendous amount pressure I think some of these guys wilt under. Van, would IMO fit the bill if we picked other positions that come to us with our 1st and 2nd pick...enough so that I'd not hesitate maybe even trying to slide up into the 3rd to make it happen.

    LeVonta Taylor from FSU right not Florida? If the FSU guy, my brother is a huge FSU fan so I shot him a text and he said while excellently athletic he is just small in terms of DBs for the next level, but he said he's a guy that is solid and isn't usually a vulnerability. He is a Lions fan and said while he loves the guy but would be mad to see them spend anything higher than a 4th on him.
     
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    Oh and crap, I'm a huge Gibson fan especially if he can be nabbed 4th on, but I foresee him going late Day 2 or early Day 3 to someone. I just truly believe he is a unique compliment for any OC to have in their lineup....backfield, split out, dude is at home anywhere really....shoot even big enough to motion into TE or out of and back. LOVE him, and would instantly make me less likely to worry about losing Williams once contract is up.
     
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    I like Gibson coming out of college more than Dexter Williams because of Gibson's versatility and ability to catch. Hope he can learn to pass block.
     
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    Utterly different backs...I like Dexter and if he can absorb the system he will be a fine #3 someday, but yes Gibson offers far more versatility to an OC and can out the gate offer more.
     
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    From what I've been reading and watching, the people I typically follow don't like Cole Kmet that much. Wouldn't be surprised if Adam Trautman is TE1.
     
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    I'd bet serious money Kmet is gone by end of Day 2 and is starting and contributing to any team that drafts him year 1. Kid is very versatile and competent in pretty much anything you ask a TE to do.
     
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    That’s my wish list. 3 players that could conceivably be upgrades would reverberate throughout the entire D. I’m not opposed to continuing to develop Burks, but he’s likely never going to be anything but a ST leader and serviceable backup.


    What I’m liking most about Jordyn will on the face sound unusual.. His Combine is not predicted to do anything but lose track of him more. I can see him sliding to a late day 2 or early day 3 selection. We wouldn’t have to overspend draft capital wise, but if he’s paired with another complimentary veteran FA, I see our interior LB position as an immediate improvement.
    With some good fortune there and another selection at DL with a stellar Run stopper to compliment Kenny, the pieces are in place Defensively. That would possibly allow GB to go a more balanced leaning Offensive draft and FA overall.
     
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    Maybe. I haven't watched enough, but the guys who did question his separation skills, athleticism, and play strength.

    Basically, he's similar to Kyle Rudolph in that he does everything fine, but it's great at anything.

    I'd totally agree with him going at the end of day 2, beginning of day 3 area. But I've been seeing stuff with him in the first round, and I'm not too keen on that.
     
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    I read somewhere that ~25% of the both of superbowl teams were undrafted free agents. Im just glad KC won though (with 49ers claiming so many high draft picks). Happy to see Damien embrace Mostert at tend of the game. I'd love to find a late round or UDFA RB. I'm still mad we didn't draft Philip Lindsay, who I was very high on (Yes.. IK we have Aaron Jones but more the merrier). I remember arguing with someone why James Conner and Alvin Kamara wayy better than D'Onta Foreman. sorry, I digress.. Anyways.. I'll check out the 2020 RB prospects coming out
     
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    I'm telling you the Memphis cat Gibson, as a couple of us discussed, is my mid to late round guy I truly feel is going to be special. Let us know your thoughts.
     
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    Lamical Perine out of Florida. He's forecasted as a Top 150 pick, which means he could fall to the 6th Round depending on combine and Pro Day, but I think he could rise to a primary 4th Round guy. Keyshawn Vaughn from Vanderbilt is also a stud.
     
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    Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA is my new crush.

    He's huge, but nimble. Hands like Richard Rodgers. I want.
     
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    But there are probably 4-5 wide receivers with legitimate 1st round talent, and we'll have a shot at 1 or 2 of them. And, we could really use a difference maker, bigly.
     
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    This is my dark horse crush as well. Look him up fellas...
     
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    If you're looking for the next George Kittle, and by that, I mean an under-used TE who will be better in the NFL than in college, check out Charlie Woerner.

    He's got good size (6'5 245), he's a good athlete for the TE position, seems to have good hands, and is a good blocker.

    So why isn't he getting talked about? Because he had 9 catches for 78 yards last year. Basically no production. But don't be fooled...Georgia rarely passed the ball, and Woerner looked good when he got opportunities.

    Now he's not the athlete that Kittle is, he's not the blocker that Kittle is, but he's similar to Kittle in that he was an underutilized player that's at least average in every aspect of the game.

    Worth a look on day 3. We'll see how he runs at the combine. I'd bet he's a 4.7 or faster.
     
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    Khaleke Hudson LB (Michigan). 6'0" -220lbs. Solid muscle. Sideline to sideline. Coverage can be improved, has the propensity/ability get better in coverage. Was watching his film, 3 in the morning with too much caffeine in my blood. Rewatched it (just to make sure I was not crazy) yeah that dude fast. Reminds me of his teammate Devin Bush. I put my stamp on him. He's gonna show out in the combine. Rounds 2-4.
     
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    Which means a steal in the 6th Round!!!!
     

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