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<blockquote data-quote="RepStar15" data-source="post: 768883" data-attributes="member: 10721"><p>I find that information pretty shocking actually. The one thing I have always said about the packers is the KIND of injuries they suffer. I do not know how to find the data, but I feel like hamstring and groin strains are recurring problems in GB, and those injuries are extremely preventable. </p><p></p><p>As far as the record without Rodgers debate, I want to ask everyone a question. If Tom Brady got hurt in 2017 after the Jimmy Garapolo trade, what would their record had been with Hoyer? Would Hoyer have gotten a 6-2 team to playoffs? With how bad that defense was and looking at that schedule I think the Patriots go 3-5 at best during that stint, which was a pretty easy schedule I may add. Sure 9-7 gets the Patriots a seat in playoffs in the AFC, but the point here is this, when a team (any team) loses a franchise QB with a terrible backup QB, unless they have a top 5 defense, a Nick Foles caliber backup (who I think we all agree will likely be a starting QB on another team by November 1st of this year) or are the Steelers and have enough weapons on offense to make it work, they WILL NOT do well. As Packers fans, we expect to win every game, there is a high standard. Losing Rodgers should not make you realize how bad the rest of the team is. Losing Rodgers should not make you realize that we do not have Steelers caliber offensive weapons or a top 5 defense, if you thought either of those things were true prior to Rodgers going down, you really need to watch more football. Losing Rodgers should make you realize ONE THING: Brett Hundley is bad. That is something I did not know. I was honestly somewhat impressed with him in preseason, I thought he may be able to fill in and grind out some W’s. The Packers are not a bad team. They lost their best player. Do the Texans make playoffs if Deshean Watson didnt tear his ACL? Do the Eagles win the Super Bowl if Brett Hundley is their backup QB? Do the Vikings get to the NFC Championship if Anthony Barr was the one that broke his collarbone in October? Do the Steelers secure home field and a first round bye in December if Antonio Brown does not tear his calf in the first series of the Patriots game? </p><p></p><p>I am so sick of everyone saying the Packers TEAM sucks. They do not suck. They are underwhelming without Rodgers and a competent backup QB. But there is not a single perfect team in the NFL! Teams with the best defenses have underwhelming offenses. Teams with the best offenses have underwhelming defenses. Teams that have good offenses and good defenses lose playmakers due to cap space. Teams that have bad offenses and bad defenses gain playmakers due to cap space. It is all relative. You cannot just say that Packers TEAM sucks. If Rodgers does not get hurt last year they go 12-4, and probably lose to the Eagles in the NFC championship.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RepStar15, post: 768883, member: 10721"] I find that information pretty shocking actually. The one thing I have always said about the packers is the KIND of injuries they suffer. I do not know how to find the data, but I feel like hamstring and groin strains are recurring problems in GB, and those injuries are extremely preventable. As far as the record without Rodgers debate, I want to ask everyone a question. If Tom Brady got hurt in 2017 after the Jimmy Garapolo trade, what would their record had been with Hoyer? Would Hoyer have gotten a 6-2 team to playoffs? With how bad that defense was and looking at that schedule I think the Patriots go 3-5 at best during that stint, which was a pretty easy schedule I may add. Sure 9-7 gets the Patriots a seat in playoffs in the AFC, but the point here is this, when a team (any team) loses a franchise QB with a terrible backup QB, unless they have a top 5 defense, a Nick Foles caliber backup (who I think we all agree will likely be a starting QB on another team by November 1st of this year) or are the Steelers and have enough weapons on offense to make it work, they WILL NOT do well. As Packers fans, we expect to win every game, there is a high standard. Losing Rodgers should not make you realize how bad the rest of the team is. Losing Rodgers should not make you realize that we do not have Steelers caliber offensive weapons or a top 5 defense, if you thought either of those things were true prior to Rodgers going down, you really need to watch more football. Losing Rodgers should make you realize ONE THING: Brett Hundley is bad. That is something I did not know. I was honestly somewhat impressed with him in preseason, I thought he may be able to fill in and grind out some W’s. The Packers are not a bad team. They lost their best player. Do the Texans make playoffs if Deshean Watson didnt tear his ACL? Do the Eagles win the Super Bowl if Brett Hundley is their backup QB? Do the Vikings get to the NFC Championship if Anthony Barr was the one that broke his collarbone in October? Do the Steelers secure home field and a first round bye in December if Antonio Brown does not tear his calf in the first series of the Patriots game? I am so sick of everyone saying the Packers TEAM sucks. They do not suck. They are underwhelming without Rodgers and a competent backup QB. But there is not a single perfect team in the NFL! Teams with the best defenses have underwhelming offenses. Teams with the best offenses have underwhelming defenses. Teams that have good offenses and good defenses lose playmakers due to cap space. Teams that have bad offenses and bad defenses gain playmakers due to cap space. It is all relative. You cannot just say that Packers TEAM sucks. If Rodgers does not get hurt last year they go 12-4, and probably lose to the Eagles in the NFC championship. [/QUOTE]
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