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<blockquote data-quote="Kutch" data-source="post: 249141" data-attributes="member: 2124"><p>I don't know if you were referring to my post above as far as Mays goes, but if you were, then I couldn't agree more with your assessment of his current skills. Honestly, he's pretty unpolished for - what - a senior? I think if his metrics check out, though, he is a superior athlete to Bigby who has surprisingly ****** range. I can't say what his upside is because I'm not McShay or Kiper, but he'd have to have a higher ceiling than Bigby because, by all accounts, Mays is an absolute beast in terms of the combine stuff. The size is obvious. </p><p>I want to make it clear that, in my honest and amateur opinion, CB would be a no brainer <strong>as long as Kyle Wilson is available.</strong> It looks like he'll be there for now, but he is only going to appreciate in value leading up to the draft. Rolle would be worth a look, but he's projecting further down than third/fourth round last time I heard. Not for lack of skill, but because of the layoff.</p><p>For whatever this is worth, I think that Kindle will be gone by Round 2. He is slipping but he won't go that far. I don't think he has the size in a conventional 3-4 defense to be effective right away so I don't think he is worth our First rounder. He looks like Aaron Maybin to me - a 4-3 edge rusher or a will or sam in the 4-3 and on passing downs only. He'll get eaten alive unless he puts on about 20 extra pounds. The Packers are legitimate contenders for NFC (and hopefully, league) supremacy; therefore, we need guys that will help right away. That makes my suggestion of Mays kind of stupid, which I realize now (even though McShay gave him to us in mocks about two weeks ago)...</p><p> If we had the goods, I'd wholeheartedly support the Packers picking up Rolando McClain if they could trade up. His situation reminds me of Patrick Willis a few years back; I think he could make the same impact in the NFL. This draft is real top heavy with interior lineman on both sides, but it's also deep - by all accounts. Those guys are valued more so I'm pretty confident McClain could be had around 10-12 in the first round; just like Willis was available around there. I don't know what we'd package to move up the 15 picks or so; maybe a first and a third (or something) for 2011? We can find an NFL-ready tackle in the mid-rounds, if Thompson and his crew would pull their thumb out of their and actually scout for talent. Sorry about the long post, but I felt I should redeem my previous post.</p><p></p><p>(edit): I saw the Angerer suggestions and I agree that he looks good. He's an interior guy isn't he? He plays and looks like Hawk - and not just because he is "Euro-American" (6'1" and about 235). I'm not so sure he'd fit as well as a guy like McClain or even Navorro Bowman - even though he's about the same size as Angerer. Bowman played outside and I think he is a more natural athlete. Just as good a pedigree, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kutch, post: 249141, member: 2124"] I don't know if you were referring to my post above as far as Mays goes, but if you were, then I couldn't agree more with your assessment of his current skills. Honestly, he's pretty unpolished for - what - a senior? I think if his metrics check out, though, he is a superior athlete to Bigby who has surprisingly ****** range. I can't say what his upside is because I'm not McShay or Kiper, but he'd have to have a higher ceiling than Bigby because, by all accounts, Mays is an absolute beast in terms of the combine stuff. The size is obvious. I want to make it clear that, in my honest and amateur opinion, CB would be a no brainer [B]as long as Kyle Wilson is available.[/B] It looks like he'll be there for now, but he is only going to appreciate in value leading up to the draft. Rolle would be worth a look, but he's projecting further down than third/fourth round last time I heard. Not for lack of skill, but because of the layoff. For whatever this is worth, I think that Kindle will be gone by Round 2. He is slipping but he won't go that far. I don't think he has the size in a conventional 3-4 defense to be effective right away so I don't think he is worth our First rounder. He looks like Aaron Maybin to me - a 4-3 edge rusher or a will or sam in the 4-3 and on passing downs only. He'll get eaten alive unless he puts on about 20 extra pounds. The Packers are legitimate contenders for NFC (and hopefully, league) supremacy; therefore, we need guys that will help right away. That makes my suggestion of Mays kind of stupid, which I realize now (even though McShay gave him to us in mocks about two weeks ago)... If we had the goods, I'd wholeheartedly support the Packers picking up Rolando McClain if they could trade up. His situation reminds me of Patrick Willis a few years back; I think he could make the same impact in the NFL. This draft is real top heavy with interior lineman on both sides, but it's also deep - by all accounts. Those guys are valued more so I'm pretty confident McClain could be had around 10-12 in the first round; just like Willis was available around there. I don't know what we'd package to move up the 15 picks or so; maybe a first and a third (or something) for 2011? We can find an NFL-ready tackle in the mid-rounds, if Thompson and his crew would pull their thumb out of their and actually scout for talent. Sorry about the long post, but I felt I should redeem my previous post. (edit): I saw the Angerer suggestions and I agree that he looks good. He's an interior guy isn't he? He plays and looks like Hawk - and not just because he is "Euro-American" (6'1" and about 235). I'm not so sure he'd fit as well as a guy like McClain or even Navorro Bowman - even though he's about the same size as Angerer. Bowman played outside and I think he is a more natural athlete. Just as good a pedigree, too. [/QUOTE]
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