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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    I'll leave you guys alone and stop stirring the pot. Thanks again ARod for at least considering my points.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    13 Time champion, My argument all along is that the left hand that is on the ball from the MOMENT that Jennings hands are on the ball constitute some control, enough to allow for him to fight for more. I've already said, if I didn't believe that to be the case, I would not believe it was a...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    13 times champs, 2 Jennings hands, 2 Tate hands.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    13 times champions, Tate had dual possession through him being on the ground. *shrug* cant help it if you see it a different way. ARod, I really appreciate you at least taking into account the small points I've been trying to point out. The offensive PI was blatant and should have been called...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    Arod, with that argument, your position is perfectly logical. I completely concede that if you believe that the left hand constitutes zero control that it should be an interception.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    That control does have to remain throughout the process of the catch. Tate had at a minimum marginal control all the way until the whistle blew.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    Marginal control, no matter how you look at it is still control. Control of any kind is enough to constitute dual possession as long as it is not ruled an incomplete pass.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    The roll away after they are on the ground doesn't matter as long as one of tates hands remain on the ball and the ball never touches the ground until the end of the play because dual possession had already occurred. The play was ruled dead (whistle blown) prior to Jennings using leverage to get...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    13 Times Champs, the 2 feet on the ground thing isn't true. Further, in terms of dual possession, it's the control point that matters. The rule says that Tate cant get joint control after Jennings has control. My argument is that Tates left hand grants him marginal control from the moment that...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    Just to follow up, there is a difference between should be and is. Unfortunately in this one it should have been, but isn't an interception.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    Thanks ExpatPacker, I'm not really trying to convince you guys that it is not a BOGUS call. In reality, I agree it is total BS. I would be livid if it was the other way around. At the same time though, I believe it IS a touchdown with the rules the way they are. That said, that rule is total...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    ExpatPacker, look at the gif I posted to start. It supports and backs my entire train of thinking. If you don't agree that it is at the same time, then I won't be able to convince you otherwise.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    ExpatPacker, You're right, a hand on the ball does not signify possession. It does, however, signify a SMALL amount of control. Which means that, Jennings did not have control prior to Tate having some control of the ball (albeit a small amount). That means, that as long as Tate doesn't lose his...
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    The heart breaking part about this whole thing. For me and everyone else included is that the rule sucks. Jennings obviously has MORE control. I just feel that with how the rule is written, it's a TD.
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    Wow, Packer fans, worst call I've ever seen

    I am wrong about the review. The official report from the nfl on their press release is that it is review-able in the end zone. Replay Official Howard Slavin stopped the game for an instant replay review. The aspects of the play that were reviewable included if the ball hit the ground and who...

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