No, no, no, a thousand times no. I don't want a guy who stomps on somebody then gives a presser like that after in a Green Bay uniform. He's a punk. Sorry.
He is still young and immature. I am not defending him, but he is no Pacman Jones. I believe I read that he gave more money to charity than any other player in the NFL this year. I think he's a good dude that needs to learn to control his temper and own up to his mistakes, and most of all...he needs to grow up.
Look, you hate the guy, you hate the guy. Period. I'm not looking to change minds, I'm just trying to be a voice of reason. I give people (including players on opposing teams) the benefit of the doubt. I don't feel it's fair to label Suh "dirty" based on one incident. Aggressive play does not equal "dirty" play. I truly feel that most of the "dirty" talk is full of bias.
I totally respect that you are loyal to your team. If the tables were turned, I may react the same towards my player. My answer to the thread title was "No, I would not want Suh on the Packer's roster". My reasons are my reasons. And I also can grasp your reasoning, I just don't happen to agree with you. That's all cool. I really don't like getting in a p*ssing match, especially with a forum visitor who seems like a decent person who is merely defending his team. Good luck in the playoffs.Look, you hate the guy, you hate the guy. Period. I'm not looking to change minds, I'm just trying to be a voice of reason. I give people (including players on opposing teams) the benefit of the doubt. I don't feel it's fair to label Suh "dirty" based on one incident. Aggressive play does not equal "dirty" play. I truly feel that most of the "dirty" talk is full of bias.
Suh has never been named a "locker room cancer". The rest of the team actually loves the guy, and only Bears and Packers fans seem to cry "DIRTY!!!" all the time. This is the guys SECOND SEASON. He just came off of a pro-bowl rookie year where he was not called dirty at all. Oh, and he didn't "stomp his head into the ground", he wasn't even looking at the guy when he stomped. You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill, and don't seem to want to acknowledge his 2 game suspension and fine as punishment.
Most of this guy's frustration comes from the fact that he is constantly double and triple blocked. He had a lot of 1 on 1 his first season, and dominated. He expected to have another stellar year, but it hasn't happened due to the respect he's already being given in his SECOND SEASON. So, he's frustrated. On top of that (and don't try to deny it happens) guys talk smack on the field. Your team does it, my team does it, every team does it. Add to that: apparently this guy (Smith?) was untying Suh's shoes in every pile up (lol), and that last time Suh got really pissed. When he had the guys helmet, grinding it into the turf, you can see he's saying something to him. According to Suh, it was something along the lines of "quit untying my f***king shoes!!!" Then, when trying to leave the situation, he thought the dude was grabbing at his foot and did a shake-off type stomp.
I guess where I'm going with this: There have been way uglier and dirtier characters in the NFL than Suh. Even when the guy has no penalties or altercations in a game, he still gets called dirty. If you guys hate Suh, you must REALLY hate: Shaun Smith (the genital grabber), Chuck Cecil (blackballed by NFL), Bill Romanowski (spitting in faces), and Butkus (who actually said "I try to injure people"). This is a rough sport, and Suh plays it rough. A victim of his own talent, he is double and triple blocked and it frustrates him. I AGREE, he needs to cool down, but like I've said before: ONLY his SECOND SEASON. He has time to tone it back, and at least he isn't grabbing nutsacks or spitting in faces.
Forget the discussion of what GB would have to do to get him, or who we would have to give up. Would you want him here? I say no. He has no class, and I really believe that once he is retired, his rookie season will be looked at as his best.
Opinions?
Agreed. Scary to think we may have to see him again.I'd rather get a guy like Jason Pierre Paul.
My answer is NO.
To whoever has that running tally of all the FAILures who did Rodger's Discount Double Check... 'er, title belt celebration dance on the field prior to LOSING to the Packers... well, you need to add Suh's photo!
Barrysghost-- what is your reply to the posting by Croak? Hard to debate when the PLAYERS themselves call Suh dirty...
Im going to just shake my head at any fan from any team trying to claim they would not want Suh. Its almost like some of you on here forget Charles Woodson and all the baggage he came with, and being a Detroit fan means im naturally a Michigan fan so I love Woodson. He literally hits players in the balls cmon now
Suh is a product of everyone praising him since college and never truly understanding he crosses lines that shouldnt be crossed. Schwartz doesnt help this, but the league is doing their part. Did he learn his lesson yet? Hell if I know, but I do know one thing, that kid has a good heart. You all dont read the detroit papers around here but that kid is involved with the community and the children in a very positive way and gives the city pride off the field.
Im going to just shake my head at any fan from any team trying to claim they would not want Suh. Its almost like some of you on here forget Charles Woodson and all the baggage he came with, and being a Detroit fan means im naturally a Michigan fan so I love Woodson. He literally hits players in the balls cmon now
Suh is a product of everyone praising him since college and never truly understanding he crosses lines that shouldnt be crossed. Schwartz doesnt help this, but the league is doing their part. Did he learn his lesson yet? Hell if I know, but I do know one thing, that kid has a good heart. You all dont read the detroit papers around here but that kid is involved with the community and the children in a very positive way and gives the city pride off the field.
A disciplined player on the field but horrible person off the field brings a ball club and the city shame for decades to come. From what I see from this kid, that is not the case, so it comes down to being immature and lost in his own hype hes gotten since high school.
Im going to just shake my head at any fan from any team trying to claim they would not want Suh.