Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Mr. StyleZ, Dec 30, 2012.
For poor performance, just like Saturday was. He has been AWFUL for 2 years.
Just trade him in the offseason.
He's a serviceable back up.
House, Hayward, and Shield have all proved they can play tons better. They've earned starting spots. Tramon is riding his 2010 playoff run interceptions.
Is this real life?
Who was it that whiffed on his coverage assignment on that final drive? (Hint: NOT Tramon Williams)
Who was that got a flag for retaliation that allowed drive to get to the 1 and not be 4th down and fg attp?
Hint it wasnt a rookie or 2 or 3 rd year player
Point being every player has a bad moment..Some at end, some that still costs the team
I agree for the most part with op. I could be cherry picking my memories, but he has not been all that great the last two years (making a lot of mental mistakes). I'm not really looking at this last game in a fish bowl or anything, yeah other people had miscues on D also, but TW's was glaring. My only real issue with op's idea is that I'd rather have Woodson at Safety. Maybe have Bush move up in the depth chart instead of flexing Woodson back to CB.
Few guys on 1250 Am Milwaukee arent happy with Tramon's play this year either
I'm ok with him trading places with Hayward.
I'd have to go back ( I was in a bar all mad) but it looked like Capers played zone coverage where Hayward was the underneath guy? So not really his fault? Meanwhile Tramon has been bad for 2 years and given up the most passing yards in a season in NFL history, while PFF has Hayward ranked #1. So there's that.
Virtually every player has moments like that. I don't blame him for retaliating. The timing just sucked. Either way, not the end of the world.
Hayward let the guy run right past him because he thought Ponder was going to run his way with it. It was a classic blown coverage.
So do the people disliking my post think Saturday should have not been benched or what? House is injured or he should be playing in place of Tramon. Plain and simple.
Let's switch the subject slightly- how much was Woodson missed this game and what can he contribute to next week's WC game to avoid a similar defensive debacle?
Leadership and experience for one...
I do not think he should be benched. That is why I disliked your post. It would seem that you have a PFF subscription, I'd be curious to know where they ranked Tramon.
Oops he's ranked 4th. I was thinking about him being #1 as a rookie or #1 in opposing passer rating. Don't know where Tramon is ranked as I don't have a subscription.
I think they need to let him know that he needs to at least get in AP's way instead of avoiding contact
How many weeks ago did everyone love him for his work on Calvin Johnson ?
Dunno, I judge players' play based on longer stretches of play. Not one game.
Or his work on Brandon Marshall?
He is 2 people now? Could have sworn we double covered him both times we played Da Bears.
Two years ago, he was basically playing with one arm. He did have a down year for sure but the coaches still felt like he was the best option.
Never said he didn't have assistance. Even Woodson got assistance on great players
I blame him. It's called discipline. When the game and possibly your season is on the line, you need to have it. 3rd and goal in a tie game in the 4th quarter is not the time. If you absolutely need to retaliate, at least learn to pick your spots.
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