You've thrown a lot of stuff at the wall hoping something would stick. I'll address these one at a time. The 2005 season saw us within a TD of tying or taking the lead in the 4th quarter over and over and Favre throwing back-breaking interceptions. He was probably the single biggest reason we finished 4-12 instead of 8-8. Even Mike Holmgren commented that somebody needs to tell Favre to quit throwing the ball around like that. The defenses during Sherman's tenure simply weren't as bad as you seem to believe. Only in 2004 did we finish in the bottom half both in scoring and yardage. In every other season we were better than average in scoring, yardage, or both. We finished in the top half of the league in scoring defense 4 times and in total defense 4 times. The only clearly below average defense was the 2004 defense. In addition to a defense that was generally average at worst the Packers enjoyed one of the finest lines in their history during this stretch and a number of Pro Bowlers at the skill positions. In addition, we played in a very weak division during the Sherman years. Detroit, of course, was bad every year but the Vikings and Bears also fielded some weak teams during those years. So all of those things contributed to us "making the playoffs" every bit as much as any magic that you seem to think Favre had. In fact, from October of 2001 to September of 2007, Favre didn't lead a single come-from-behind 4th quarter touchdown drive. Not one. That's a span of almost 100 games. Rodgers perhaps did hold the ball a little too long at times last year but I think you can expect that from a guy in his first year as a starter. It's eminently more understandable...and preferable....to a future HOFer simply tossing the ball up for grabs. You simply give Favre way too much credit. From 2000-2007 he was largely an average QB on an above average team. Just as the very good cast around him made him look better than he was in 2004, for example, in 2005 a weaker cast made him look worse. From 2000-2007 his turnover to TD ratio is pretty darn close to 1:1. That's nothing spectacular. His passer rating during that time was around 85 with three seasons under 80. That's not legendary, that's average. And despite all your rhetoric, during the last several years of Favre's tenure in Green Bay he was an average QB who was better than average at throwing TD passes and worse than average at protecting the ball.