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The Message this Super Bowl sends...

Discussion in 'Smack Area' started by Bogart, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Bogart Duke Mantee

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    Today we will be taught one of two things.


    Number #1, You obviously can win the Super Bowl with the 31st ranked defense in the league.

    Number #2, No matter your record being 9-7 it's possible to win a Super Bowl, just remember when the rest of your division sucks, it don't matter if you have a losing record or not.


    No team has ever won a Super Bowl with a defense outside the top 20.

    No team has ever won a Super Bowl with a losing record (Sorry NYG, but 9-7 is NOT a winning record of 10 games, go ask the number of teams that missed the playoffs going 9-7 cause they didn't play a really ****** division like you do)


    Way to dumb down the league. This Super Bowl sucks for that fact. "Defense wins Championships" is going to be destroyed, or it's going to be "You gotta win 10 games" that will be flushed down the drain.


    To hell with the media and their East coast biased, this is the real truth, and i still can't decide what's worse. A team winning it with the 31st ranked defense, or a 9-7 team winning it. It would have been a million times better had the Ravens and Giants made it, cause then we could go ahead and say Baltimore wins cause they had a top ranked defense and a top 20 offense, and they won more than 9 games. Oh and not to mention, more east coast biased in the poor officiating of the Ravens/Patriots game, but that's all done and said, everyone knows the Pats have always got every call, that's one of the reasons every one hates them.
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    Regular season record does not matter. Just make the playoffs.
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    Colts and Saints won a SB without a D in the top 20.

    2006 Colts though, were IMO a top 10 D with Bob Sanders. They might have finished the year at 22rd or something but were high in pass defense all year. Saints I think finished like 24th but were battle tested IMO going into the SB playing Favre/Warner.

    You can fix a run D I believe. Dungy always said it.. A bad passing D cannot be fixed overnight.



    I will also say the NFC is just providing teams with a tougher road to get to the SB so they are more battle tested. The AFC has been horrible. It's a good time for the Colts to rebuild IMO.


    OH AND PLAYING FLACCO IS A CURSE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
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    Bogart, I'm not sure if I understood your post so pardon me if I did.

    But this SB proved that D does win championships. And that an elite offense without defense is doomed.
    I also thought it was a pretty good game. Exciting to the last. Well played.

    I tip my hat to the Giants because Eli IS NOT ELITE. He's a good QB on a good team. But neither the Pats or Giants were the best of the NFL this year. They simply were clutch and won when it really counted.
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    I had to laugh for two weeks with the Boston spin "We wanted the Giants!!! We want revenge!!! Brady and Bill don't lose to the same team 3 times in a row. No way. They have two weeks off."

    Don't give me that ****. You wanted Alex Smith and that anemic offense you liars. Like 7 guys on this Pats team are from the 2007 squad. Yeah they all wanted revenge.......yep.
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    Giants and Pats both IMO were like 11 win teams this year. Pats schedule was a joke and the Giants just kinda suck vs. some bad teams.
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    I guess that's why Eli's stats were so much better and why he was selected as the League MVP. As far as Divisions, I'll give you that, but they most certainly were not the best teams in their respective Conferences; they were simply the hottest at the right time.
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    LOL so you join a Packer site?
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    Wow, Bogey, I haven't seen rationalization like that since the Cowboys.

    Pretty silly trying to redefine math so 9-7 is a losing record. I've seen people try (absurdly) to argue 8-8 is losing by virtue that it isn't winning, but you're the first to argue that winning 2 more games than you lost is somehow still a losing record. Congratulations.

    By the way, weren't the 2010 Champion Packers a whole one game ahead of that record and the #6 seed themselves? Weren't they also the hottest team going into the 2010 playoffs and not the best team during the year? They didn't even win their division.

    And as for the 31st ranked defense and "Defense wins Championships", it still does because they obviously did not play like the 31st ranked defense in the playoffs and the defense was spectacular in the Super Bowl.
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    The Giants schedule was brutal as heck. Hardest in the league.
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    NY Giants had a brutal schedule and were plagued with injuries from the begininning of the season. As soon as NY Giants got healthy and started to get some players back they started to dominate as was demonstrated in the playoffs against Atlanta and Green Bay.
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    A team that gives up 400 points in the regular season wins the Super Bowl.


    At least in the NCCA I will never live to see something so horrible happen like that.


    And don't none of you start blaming it on a tough schedule. The Packers were injury riddled in 2010 and they didn't give up that many points, and nor did they get blown out by better teams like the Giants did. That is just an excuse. Would like to hear you say that to an old 49er fan that remembers the 1988 injury riddled team that played a tough schedule and still managed to win the Super Bowl with a top ranked offense and top 10 defense.
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    NY Giants got blown out once during the season and that was against New Orleans Saints in New Orleans. That will be a much different game when it is played in Giants Stadium.

    If NY Giants were really such a bad team as folks want to claim and it wasn't due to injuries like some folks want to claim then someone should have stopped them in NFC playoffs. Heck, even New England Patriots headed by the best QB in NFL and coached by greatest coach in NFL history could stop them in SuperBowl.

    NY Giants are for real. Best team in NFL.
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    LMFAO at that entire last post.

    Giants rushing offense ranking 32nd, worst in the NFL

    Defensive rank, 30th, worst defense to ever win a Super Bowl.

    Record - 9-7 worst record to ever win a Super Bowl

    Bill Bellichek the greatest coach ever? You're killing me over here. Lombardi, Landry, Walsh, and I will even throw Jimmy Johnson in there, totally OWN him.

    And as for the Saints? You guys got demolished by them in the Big Easy, and for the record, when is the last time you beat the Saints? Weren't the Giants supposed to be the team that would give them their first loss back in 2009? ROFL, last 2 meetings with New Orleans, you've given up 45 points to them. Will be laughing when you give up 40 points to them again this year, won't be a difference. They would have totally destroyed you guys had they not blew it in the last minute against San Francisco. Simple fact; they scored 32 against that defense, you couldn't get past 20 points.


    Best team in the NFL my ***, and for the record, YES I think the 49ers and even the Saints would have scored more points against the Patriots 31st ranked, god awful defense.


    The 2011 Giants would get totally crushed by a real Super Bowl winning team from 1966-2001. Simple fact. Would love to see that defense that gave up 400 points in the regular season play a team like the 1980's 49ers that could not stop scoring, and did not need some lucky BS penalties to help them out like that fumble against the Niners in the NFC Championship.
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    The defense was good enough to **** doqn everyone they faced in the playoffs including your Green Bay Packers in your house. NY Giants defense was also good enough to stop Tom Brady, the best QB in NFL in SuperBowl.

    NY Giants 9-7 record did not get them in the playoffs as a wildcard, they won their division. By winning their division, it doesn't matter what record they had because they controlled their destiny and got in.

    You are going to bring up bad calls? The fumble in NFC Championship Game was legitimate and Eli Manning beat a defense that Aaron Rodgers would have crumbled under. You guys only won in Giants Stadium because of tje awful calls by the refs, particularly the Ballard TD. I usually never bring calls up bit since you want to then I will appease you.

    NY Giants won SuperBowl they are the best team in NFL with the best QB in NFC.

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