Rodgers vs Favre do it here

Agreed! ....cant believe were still having a thread about this...

So realpackerbacker, what would you have done in ted's shoes? How would you have prepared the Pack for the future? would you have adopted the viking method of preparing for the future at QB (tampering with QBs who are under contract with other teams)? Ted was telling the truth when he said that Favre won't be around forever, no player will be around forever. Ted drafted Rodgers because that's about the time that Favre began publicly debating retirement. If Ted hadn't began preping a QB then what would the Packers have done if Favre really did retire and stayed retired? It just shows how selfish Brett really is that he got pissed because Ted didn't kiss Favre's *** the way Mike Sherman did and now Brad Childress does. No player is ever bigger than the team no matter who that one player is. Childress will find that out soon enough I guarantee you that building his career around one player will be the doom of his coaching tenure. What Aaron has accomplished in his first two years starting blows Favre's first wo years starting out of the water.

People bash on Rodgers for not going to the playoffs in his first year as the starter, FAVRE DIDN'T EITHER.

People bash on Rodgers for losing his first playoff game , FAVRE LOST HIS FIRST PLAYOFF GAME TOO.

People say that Rodgers can't win in the clutch when most off the time he plays impressively only to have the defense or special teams blow it. Rodgers played a damn good game at Arizona and we would have won that game easily if the defense didn't fall flat on their faces and if the refs were actually watching the game. People shrug of Rodgers stats by saying that stats don't matter in the long run, but they're wrong stats show that Rodgers is doing HIS part to get the Pack a win even if the rest of the team doesn't pull it's weight.

Find me on person who thinks Aaron Rodgers sucks who isn't also a Brett Favre fan. Thes one player fans just can't accept the fact that their player will oneday be gone.

aaron rodgers is the future!!! and the future is now!

Sure you all did. Favre holds EVERY passing record in team history! Like it or not he's one of ours...and there aren't many on this board who don't bag on him! We are NOT a better team or even an EQUAL team to what we were in 2007, no one can or ever will convince me of that!

Brett had ONE losing season as a starter with ANY team including all his years in GB. Aaron has had one SO FAR! How can anyone possibly claim Aaron Rodgers is stacking up to Favre? I'll never understand this.

It DOES piss me off, but I don't misplace my aggression on a football player who did so much for the team over his 16 plus years with the team. I place it squarely on the GM who caused it through his comments back room dealings with the player and public comments!

You're blaming Favre for 4th and 26????????????? Good lord I should leave...I don't have enough time to educate everyone, nor do I have the patience.

Without the defensive miscue caused by having a 37 year old Middle Linebacker *At the time* we wouldn't have lost momentum and WON the Eagles game. Once the Eagles converted momentum shifted.

Also weren't we defeated in the Atlanta game because of a bad defensive scheme *Failure to contain Michael Vick*? Hardly Brett's fault.

See guys I can do the "It's not the QB's fault" thing just like you AR fans can.

From Aaron's number 1 fan I'd expect this. Remember he was on an injured ankle that has since been cut on. There was no way he could've run for the 1st down. Maybe in that situation the Golden Boy makes the same throw.

Actually we can do it after this season. Brett did it in his 6th season in the league...which if my math hasn't failed me this is Aaron's 6th season in the league...so let's compare after week 17 when Aaron leads our Packers to another sub .500 record for the 2nd time in his career as a starter...something Favre NEVER did, and never WILL do.

Your post is full of many inaccuracies so let me set you straight.

1. I don't hate Aaron because he didn't take us to the post-season his first year. I hate him because he didn't have a winning record his first season...which Brett did. (First year he was 10-3 I think as a starter or 10-4 not sure if you count the Cincy game as his or Majik's, and the only reason he didn't go to the playoffs is cause Minnesota beat Cincy on Monday night to knock us out)

2. TT did NOT draft Rodgers. Sherman did in his last draft as GM...he was Sherman's last first round draft pick. Thompson merely shoved him into the starting job.

3. Rodgers CAN'T win in the clutch. He had the ball IN HIS HANDS at least TWICE last season and choked by himself! Remember Tampa? Or how about Arizona? Without Rodgers the Packers win those games!

4. Didn't Favre BEAT the Lions in Detroit in '93? That being his first playoff game?

And it looks like the 80's! Bust out your big hair and parachute pants people!

I gave you the comment from his first press conference already. If you saw Milwaukee's coverage from Brett's retirement conference you saw other things, not to mention ESPN's coverage of it. Trust me Ted wanted Rodgers as the starter and got what he wanted...and now he'll get what he deserves...an unemployment check.

I can't help it Aaron sucks so bad it took him 4 years to beat out an "old man" to be the starting quarterback. It's year 6...comparison time!

ok fine, BUT earlier in the game he had gone down and had to be helped off the field with what had at the time looked like a severe knee injury. It turned out to be both knee but more severely an ankle injury which he more recently had surgery on. Could YOU Have made that first down? And remember I don't think you're 40 with close to 20 years of NFL football game mileage on your body on TOP of the injury suffered previously in the game.

In Brett's defense I've seen Packer quarterbacks of the past *Prior to Brett* and Packer quarterbacks currently on the roster make stupider decisions!

I concede that I am wrong about Sherman drafting Rodgers but I could've sworn it WAS Sherman.

And yes there is a difference between the Philly and Arizona game...you must have failed the read the part I wrote about MOMENTUM so go back and read it again...because WITH the ball in SUDDEN DEATH...the Packers again HAD MOMENTUM until Aaron fumbled! WHICH they had in the Philly game...until Philly converted on 4th and 26!

I'm not a troll...I'm a well informed football fan as well as a well informed Packers fan. Though I do occassionally as in the case of the Thompson/Sherman issue earlier make mistakes.

As far as your eequest that I stop...gladly...once that I merely ask all Favre haters and Rodgers lovers and so-called Packers fans to look at the records of both since the start of the '08 season and look at the record we probably could have had.

Ok so you think Brett Favre is a great QB and all that and yet you discredit him for being old after a youngster took over his job after 4 years? With the way you commend Favre, Rodgers shouldn't have been able to beat Favre in the first place no matter how long it took.

Oh yeah by the way Rodgers technically never beat out Favre for the starting job. Favre bitched out of OTAs, minicamp and training camp before Rodgers even had the chance to go up against him. TT specifically told Favre that if he wanted to come back to the Packers he would have to compete for his job. Well if lord Favre is so high and mighty, what's wrong with a little friendly competition? Was he scaref because he knew Rodgers would take the job from him?

Did you cheer for Favre last season against the packers?

Well informed fans dont say that the 3rd string QB is a better QB than the Pro Bowl one that starts. Your just a troll and a Favre lover.

Pink him please, I think we would all be welcoming if you brought something interesting or new to the debate, or even stats, but really all you do is talk nonsense.

Lets talk about Favre.

Jan 3, 1999 Brett Favre goes into candlestick trying to make it to the Superbowl a third year in a row. He throws just as many INTs as TDs (2). This game becomes more famous for the TO catch than anything else.

1999 season, Packers fail to make the playoffs. Favre throws 22 TDs and 23 INTs during the season and has a rating of 74.7

2000 season, Packers fail to make the playoffs Favre throws 20 TDs and 16 INTs during the season and has a rating of 78.0

Jan 20, 2002 Brett Favre leads the packers against the St Louis Rams with a 12-4 record. Brett throws 6 INTS and ties the NFL record with Norm Van Brocklin in 1955.

Jan 4, 2003 Brett Favre leads the 12-4 Packers against the 9-6-1 Falcons. Brett's stat line looked like this 20 of 42, 47.6%, 247 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 54.4 rating throw in 2 fumbles on top of that. First time the packers lost at home in the Playoffs.

Jan 11, 2004 With a birth in the SB riding on the game Favre throws for only 180 yards. No biggie because the game goes into overtime. Favre proceeds to throw a INT to Brian Dawkins on the first play of OT.

Jan 9, 2005 The 10-6 packers draw the 8-8 vikings in the first round of the playoffs. Favre's day looked like this 22 of 33, 66.7%, 216 yards, 6.5 YPA, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.4 rating

2005 season packers go 4-12 and fail to make the playoffs. Brett throws 20 TDs and 29 INTs and has a passer rating of 70.9

2006 season packers go 8-8 and fail to make the playoffs. Brett throws 18 TDs and 18 INTs. His passer rating is 72.7

Jan 20th 2008 Favre and the packers go up against the wild card New York Giants. The offense collapses with Favre at the helm and even with overtime Favre manages to blow the game by throwing an INT.

2008 Jets fail to make playoffs and Favre throws 22 TDs and 22 INTs. His passer rating is up to 81.0

2009 Favre throws a game ending INT in the NFC championship ending the season how history already showed it would end.