Rodgers vs Favre do it here

I know the guy has a lot of comeback from behind victories.... but i have two questions on that..... how many times were we behind because of him and forced him to make those comebacks... and how many times besides getting us the victory did he make a key mistake that cost us the game...

Rodgers won his ?

And this was the third straight game on the road, in a hostile environment against a division rival.

All the haters want to slam Rodgers for the Chicago game. Why? He won the game. Plus if your going to run stat lines, please mention the rushing TD. At least one QB knew when to run instead of throw (Cough) vikings nfc championships game (cough).

Didn't you get the memo? Rodgers isn't allowed to have a bad game. Ever. He could throw for 400 yards, 4 TD's every game, throw one pick all season and lead us to an undefeated season, and all anyone would ever talk about is the one pick he threw.

kind of ironic really that favre fans rip Rodgers for how he played in a nfc championship.

Or even the AZ game? I only can imagine what they would say if Favre had that type of game.

They just feel threatened by Rodgers and fear everyone will realize Rodgers is the better QB reguardless of final stats.

Well, Favre had one hell of a career, there's no disputing that. But I agree, Rodgers is the better quarterback. No, he doesn't hold any NFL records yet, because he hasn't played long enough. And no, he probably won't touch most of Favre's records, because he probably won't play for 20 years. Favre will more than likely have him on that.

However, his numbers are already much better than Favre's at this same point in Favre's career. He leads the NFL in total passer rating, has a better TD-Int ratio, has just as many road playoff wins as Favre did in his whole career, has just as many Super Bowl wins as Favre and even trumped Favre by being selected Super Bowl MVP.

And he's still young, with easily another 8-10 years left, should he choose to continue playing. There's plenty of time for him to hit many of Favre's milestones, get more playoff and Super Bowl wins and to earn some MVP awards.

One difference seems to be when Favre had a bad game, we were sure to lose. When Rodgers has a bad game, we still have a chance.

Is it because a bad Rodgers is way better than a bad Favre?

Rodgers can throw a pick and right the ship so to speak. Rodgers doesn't let it get him rattled. Favre throws a pick chances are 3 more are on their way. At the same time I would say Favre is less likely to throw one randomly late in the game. If he had a great game it very very got tarnished with a random late int.

Rodgers INTs seem completely random while Favre was streaky with them.

This might answer some of your questions, and it doesn't include the 2009 NFC Championship:

Favre fantasy vs. reality
Cold, Hard Football Facts for August 19, 2009

By Kerry J. Byrne

The Vikings inked Brett Favre to a two-year, $25 million deal Tuesday, apparently confusing the Brett Favre of 1996 with the one who they actually signed.

The Vikings don't get a top-notch NFL quarterback. What they get is a mistake-prone quarterback with a 79.5 passer rating over the past four years who turns 40 in October and who hasn't led a team to a championship since the time Bill Clinton was not having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.

Despite the recent track record, Favre continues to be surrounded by a fantasy of continued greatness. In fact, some fans and media inhabit this fantasy world where Favre is a "big-game" gunslinger who can lift an otherwise solid team such as the Vikings to a Super Bowl title. The Vikings certainly believe this, too, or they would not have courted him all year, before signing him in an act of desperation three weeks into training camp.

But the Cold, Hard Football Facts have long been baffled by this Favre fantasy.

The truth about Favre is that, for most of the past decade, he’s taken one contender after another and ruined their championship hopes with critical big-game mistakes.

So here’s a look at the fantasies that have surrounded Favre in recent years and that continue to live on in Minnesota, and a look at the reality of Favre, low-lighted by his critical gaffes in big games. This is the Favre that the Minnesota signed on Tuesday. It's not pretty, Vikings fans.

Jan. 20, 2002
The reality: The Packers have a shot to reach the conference championship game for first time since the 1997 season if they beat Rams in the divisional round.

The Favre apologist fantasy: The 12-4 Packers were no match for the 14-2 Rams

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: The Rams edged out the 11-5 Eagles by just five points in the conference title game and lost to the 11-5 Patriots in the Super Bowl. The Packers easily could have beat the Rams if Favre had not thrown 6 picks – tying the single-game NFL record for postseason picks last matched by a passer back in 1955.

Jan. 4, 2003
The reality: The 12-4 Packers were again one of the best teams in football, playing at home against the tepid 9-6-1 Falcons.

The Favre apologist fantasy: Favre walks on water.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre sinks like a lead weight, reserving one of his worst performances of the year (20 of 42, 47.6%, 247 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 54.4 rating) for when it matters most in a 27-7 loss. It was Green Bay's lowest offensive output of the season and the franchise’s first-ever home playoff loss.

Jan. 11, 2004
The reality: The Packers need to produce just one drive in overtime to beat the Eagles and then battle the Panthers for a chance to go to Super Bowl XXXVIII.

The Favre apologist fantasy: The Green Bay Favrers defense let Brett down when they surrendered a miracle 4th and 26 completion by Donovan McNabb in the fourth quarter, allowing the Eagles to tie the game.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: On Green Bay's first play of overtime, Favre promptly tossed a bad pass into the hands of Eagles defender Brian Dawkins. McNabb quickly drove the offense into easy field goal range for the victory. The Favrers defense disappointed Brett by sacking McNabb a mere 8 times, while the Favrers ground game failed to hold up its end of the bargain with just 210 yards and a measly average of 5.7 YPA. Favre passed for 180 yards, one of his lowest outputs of the year.

Jan. 9, 2005
The reality: The 10-6 Packers draw a gimme, landing the 8-8 Vikings at home in the wildcard round.

The Favre apologist fantasy: Favre heals lepers.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre turns out a gruesomely disfiguring playoff performance (22 of 33, 66.7%, 216 yards, 6.5 YPA, 1 TD, 4 INT, 55.4 rating), as Packers suffer a humiliating 31-17 loss to one of the worst teams ever to reach the playoffs. Had the Seahawks not lost to the Rams just one day earlier, Favre would have been the first quarterback in history to lose a playoff game to a .500 team.

The 2005 season
The reality: The Packers suffer their first losing season in the Favre Era.

The Favre apologist fantasy: The Packers went 4-12 because Favre had no talent around him.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Eight times in the 2005 season, Favre took the field in the fourth quarter with his team in position to tie or take the lead and a chance for him to play the role of hero. In all eight games, he threw crushing interceptions that killed any hopes for victory. Favre’s 29 picks that year are the most thrown by any quarterback in the past 20 years.

The 2006 season
The reality: Packers climb back to respectability with an 8-8 record.

The Favre apologist fantasy: Favre helped the blind to see.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre had trouble focusing on the field, with a 72.7 passer rating that was among the worst in football that season. The list of quarterbacks with a better rating in 2006 included some of the most widely ridiculed passers in football: David Carr (82.1), Michael Vick (75.7), Alex Smith (74.8) and Rex Grossman (73.9)

Jan. 20, 2008
The reality: Packers were favored at home on one of the coldest nights in Lambeau Field history.

The Favre apologist fantasy: The Packers ran into a buzzsaw and lost to the eventual Super Bowl champs.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: Favre, and the Packers offense, suffered one of the most colossal collapses in history. In the fourth quarter and overtime, Favre completed 4 of 10 passes for 32 yards with 2 INTs. Green Bay’s final four drives, with a Super Bowl appearance easily within their grasp, went for 0, 7, 0 and 2 yards. Favre’s final pick, on the second play of overtime, led directly to the Giants’ game-winning field goal.

No wonder Cheeseheads continue to cling to 1996 as if it were yesterday: the memories Favre provided them in the years since were too painful to bear.

The 2008 season
The reality: Favre wrote a typical Favre-style tragedy that ruined what looked like a promising season for his new team, thet Jets, who led the AFC East with an 8-3 record through 11 games.

The Favre apologist fantasy: An injury prevented Favre from writing a great comeback story with his new team.

The Cold, Hard Football Facts: It is true that Favre was injured late in the 2008 season. But either the injury was not very bad, or he and the organization put his consecutive-games streak ahead of the welfare of the team, because he still took the field every week. And when he did, it resulted in a classic late-season meltdown for the old gunslinger. Favre was dreadful during the stretch-run collapse, throwing 2 TDs against 9 picks. INTs lead directly to losses, and the Jets went 1-4 over the final five games, and missed the playoffs despite their hot 8-3 start.

Favre ended the season with an 81.0 passer rating: 20 NFL starters last year posted a better mark, and few of them are considered champion-caliber quarterbacks.

An injury might be a good excuse … had we not seen Favre weave these fantasy time and again in his career.

Well, my little brother who lives in Mobile, Al. and was a big Favre fan who swears the Pack screwed Favre instead of it being the other way around, is finally jumping on the Rodgers bandwagon.

I hope you deny him a ride at this point.

Tell your little brother thanks, but no thanks. The wagon is full.

Never could control that boy, He jumped on the Saints bandwagon after living in Alabama for 20 years.....AFTER they got to the Superbowl.

watching a 30 on 30 about greztky leaving edmonton reminds me alot of favre leaving GB.

Maybe if I was Canadian I would have cared more.

However, I am a former Wisconsinite so guess which affected me more.

I think Rodgers will have to make a public statement in support of Favre for things to start to heal.

I don't care if Burp Fail is the best QB on paper.
When A-rod goes back and wins another SB, then he will prove beyond a doubt once and for all that he is a better QB than Burt.
To me, wins matter more than records.

Yep, just did all that, plus rushed for two more TD's, and still had one pick.'

Funny but they DON'T just talk about the one pick.

FWIW, and just so my comment is put into proper context, that post was made in Feb, when fans were still criticizing Rodgers for his less than stellar performance in the NFC Championship against Chicago, even though he went on to win the Super Bowl and become MVP.

You didn't put a time limit on your quote!

I love both, but the thing that seperates Favre & Rodgers and the reason I like #12 more than #4:
Favre would take his teams/teammates/coaches forgranted.
Rodgers would never take his dudes forgranted. (probably spelled forgranted wrong)

You check out some of the teams Brett had compared to what Peyton & Brady had to work with, it makes you just sit there and wonder, "WTH? Dude, how do you only have 1 ring?!"

The 95-98 Packers were pretty great, the 02-04 Packers were one of the better NFC teams in those days, they should've at least made a Superbowl Appearance. The 07' Packers/08' Jets/09' Vikings were all good enough to get to or win a title.
All (except the 96' packers) would have to see Brett throw away the season... ugh!

idk, Brett Favre could only get it done when every little thing was in his favor. Great Return Game, Great D, Great Oline/WRs/TEs/solid HBs. Great Coaching, no.1 seed, etc. Dude could never win as an underdog or with a team that had a hole or two, he could only get it done if everything on the team was Great and had no weakness.

Rodgers on the otherhand, won his first superbowl as a no.6 seed team with 15 guys on IR, solid oline, good wrs, average TEs, okay HBs, Good D, AWFUL special teams. Good Coaches, etc. idk.... that's my 13 championship cents on the topic.

I read this thread last night. Some good posts. I especially like this one and I cut out the first half bitching of it:

LOL OH WELL