Refs admitt to mistake

[Marvin49]

Why would they reverse an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against a player? That is in the referees discretion. We don't know what Staley said or did. Did he NOT grab a facemask on the sideline? Like I said its basically the NFL protecting their backsides. Can't be having any critcism of the refs after last years debacle.

BS....NFL acknowlegded both mistakes and demotes the ref.

 

[Royal Pain]

I'm a little concerned that neither McCarthy nor anyone else on the Packers knew it was supposed to be 4th down. McCarthy brushed it off in his press conference, but it seems to me if he had been aware of the mistake when it happened, he could have addressed it with the officials before the 49ers could run a play and it could have been corrected. At the very least he should have someone designated to watch for these mistakes that can notify him in a timely manner.

 

[Marvin49]

Chris Biderman‏@ChrisBiderman3m
Harbaugh said he would have gone for it on 4th-and-1 on the play following the scuffle involving Mathews and Staley had it not been reset.

 

[Forget Favre]

I saw no punch by Staley, but I did see his head get jacked to the side BY a punch (as shown in the gifs I posted). He ran over and grabbed Matthews jersey to lock him up, as he was coached to do according to Harbaugh, to protect his QB.

Somebody slams Aaron Rodgers and I dare say you'd want your tackle to do the same. But that isn't a penalty. Holding someone after the play is not going to ever be a penalty. Staley threw ZERO punches. HE got punched. Show some evidence of his claim please, because I definitely did NOT see it, nor do any of the gifs I've seen show it. He did grab him by his jersey/pads. That's it. Matthews went for Staley's head three separate times there, as shown by my two gifs.

If Clay Matthews was defending himself then HE HAS EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD TO DO SO!!!!

If you just took out an opposing team's QB and see other player's rushing in, do you think they just want to sit down, hold hands with you and have a sing-a-long?
So how can you be against someone for defending themselves in this heated situation?

 

[packerskeylargo]

This is a non-issue. Calls get blown almost ever week in every game. MM's attitude is right, it's a part of the game. Had it been 4th down and SF kicked a field goal, there's a lot of what-if's, but the final would have still been 30-28 49ers. We still lose

Agreed

 

[packerskeylargo]

With Clay Matthews being a veteran player - he knows better... Was disappointed with his actions.

 

[Forget Favre]

There shouldn't have been a call on Clay in the first place.
You cannot stop yourself when you have already launched yourself in the air and have forward momentum.
Clay was going to push or take him out of bounds.
But CrapperKnickers stepped out right at the moment Clay leaped at him.
I doubt that Clay was hitting him OUB on purpose. Just bad timing.

So once again the Packers are getting screwed by the refs.
I swear, the refs hate us.
Weather they are the scab ones or the regulars. They have it in for us.

 

[USArmyParatrooper]

If Clay Matthews was defending himself then HE HAS EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD TO DO SO!!!!

If you just took out an opposing team's QB and see other player's rushing in, do you think they just want to sit down, hold hands with you and have a sing-a-long?
So how can you be against someone for defending themselves in this heated situation?

Yeah, IF he was defending himself. And IF my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. It wasn't self defense. Staley was yelling at him, not throwing punches.

The VP of NFL officiating even said Staley should not have been flagged, so it should have been 1st & goal on the three.

 

[USArmyParatrooper]

There shouldn't have been a call on Clay in the first place.
You cannot stop yourself when you have already launched yourself in the air and have forward momentum.
Clay was going to push or take him out of bounds.
But CrapperKnickers stepped out right at the moment Clay leaped at him.
I doubt that Clay was hitting him OUB on purpose. Just bad timing.

So once again the Packers are getting screwed by the refs.
I swear, the refs hate us.
Weather they are the scab ones or the regulars. They have it in for us.

Wow, just wow. Not even close to reality.

 

[Marvin49]

There shouldn't have been a call on Clay in the first place.
You cannot stop yourself when you have already launched yourself in the air and have forward momentum.
Clay was going to push or take him out of bounds.
But CrapperKnickers stepped out right at the moment Clay leaped at him.
I doubt that Clay was hitting him OUB on purpose. Just bad timing.

So once again the Packers are getting screwed by the refs.
I swear, the refs hate us.
Weather they are the scab ones or the regulars. They have it in for us.

Uh...

He BEGAN his leap 2 feet from the sideline. I ask in what possible situation would it be necessary to LEAVE YOUR FEET and LAUNCH yourself only 2 feet from the sideline.

Come on now...be reasonable.

 

[Narveson]

I won't say that the refs screwed us out of a W but at least the niners fans can admit that their offensive line got away with blatantly holding I counted at least 5-6 times. I mean, If they call what Sitton was doing holding, then the niners got away with a lot in the game as well.

 

[USArmyParatrooper]

I won't say that the refs screwed us out of a W but at least the niners fans can admit that their offensive line got away with blatantly holding I counted at least 5-6 times. I mean, If they call what Sitton was doing holding, then the niners got away with a lot in the game as well.

I saw lots of the same from the Packers O-line not getting called. A couple of them were so blatant that even the announcers commented on it.

 

[Ceodore]

Chris Biderman‏@ChrisBiderman3m
Harbaugh said he would have gone for it on 4th-and-1 on the play following the scuffle involving Mathews and Staley had it not been reset.

Even though he said it, I'm not sure I believe that he would have. This feels him taking the high road as opposed to saying McCarthy made a mistake in accepting the penalty. He can say he would have now and everyone saves face.

 

[realcaliforniacheese]

Time to turn the page. on to the Skins. See you guys in Lambeau for the NFC Championship game in January.

 

[Marvin49]

Time to turn the page. on to the Skins. See you guys in Lambeau for the NFC Championship game in January.

HEHEHE.

I actually would like to see you guys in Candlestick for the NFC Championship.

That would be a proper goodbye to the 'stick.

 

[Marvin49]

I won't say that the refs screwed us out of a W but at least the niners fans can admit that their offensive line got away with blatantly holding I counted at least 5-6 times. I mean, If they call what Sitton was doing holding, then the niners got away with a lot in the game as well.

...and I saw DBs holding Boldin and Vernon all day. Works both ways.

BTW...I think alot of the absense of pressure on Kaep had less to do with the 49ers offensive line and the packers desire to cut down his running lanes so he couldn't escape on a scramble. They never rushed beyond him and constantly stopped their rush. It worked to stop him from scrambling, but it also gave him more time in the pocket. It seems Capers was determined for force him to beat you guys from the pocket...which he showed he was capable of doing.

I actually give Capers some credit there for thinking outside the box and making sure that it wasn't a repeat of the game in January.

 

[ExpatPacker]

...and I saw DBs holding Boldin and Vernon all day. Works both ways.

BTW...I think alot of the absense of pressure on Kaep had less to do with the 49ers offensive line and the packers desire to cut down his running lanes so he couldn't escape on a scramble. They never rushed beyond him and constantly stopped their rush. It worked to stop him from scrambling, but it also gave him more time in the pocket. It seems Capers was determined for force him to beat you guys from the pocket...which he showed he was capable of doing.

I actually give Capers some credit there for thinking outside the box and making sure that it wasn't a repeat of the game in January.

Well....there was a lot of pushing going on too by those 2 9er recievers beyond the 5-yard limit. Boldin pushed quite a lot. But enough of this. It was a very good game. I wish the Packers' secondary had been better. Safety play was terrible. But it's the first game of the season. Time to move on. Hope that Morgan Burnett is ready to play next week.

 

[94niners]

I'm not talking conspiracies either. You're making stuff up to suit yourself. Fine. But Staley did not run up, stop, and grab Matthews jersey to talk about the weather and protect his QB. That's delusional thinking. He went to rough up the guy that just blatantly hit his QB. Scuffles happen all of the time but players get flagged when they aren't involved and come running in to escalate the situation. That's exactly what Staley did in that situation. That won't always draw a flag, maybe it's 50% of the time, but it's not a wrong call by the official. There was no football reason for Staley to run over and grab the opponent when everyone was already walking away. The 49ers are starting to remind me a little bit of the undisciplined Lions

Then what do you make of Harbaugh saying immediately after the game that running up and "locking up" the guy who hits the QB or starts a fight is exactly what they are coached to do?

lol @ 94niners ..... that grab and push is your definition of a punch? LMAO..... you have no clue.

There is no camera angle on the initial motion by Matthews. Could have been a grab of facemask + push from the start. Two or three times. Which in the least should have drawn an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty ANYWAY, if not an ejection.

 

[El Guapo]

Then what do you make of Harbaugh saying immediately after the game that running up and "locking up" the guy who hits the QB or starts a fight is exactly what they are coached to do?

I make it out to be bad coaching. Your coach admitted to putting his player in a situation to get a penalty. There is protecting your QB in a fight and there is running up after a play to lock up/engage another player. The former I have no problem with, the latter is stupid coaching.

 

[longtimefan]

No, he didn't. MATTHEWS grabed HIS facemask. See?

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(Stayey had him by the jersey/pads, not facemask)

And he also punched him:

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Can you honestly say that is someone was guilty, Staley was the guilty one here?

Bolding smacked Shields in the face

 

[weeds]

Time to turn the page. on to the Skins. See you guys in Lambeau for the NFC Championship game in January.

I agree. This entire thread has degenerated into nothing but a series of circular arguments with no rational answer in sight. These teams don't like each other much and chirping on the internet isn't going to change a thing.

The Packers didn't get screwed by the refs ... they lost to a slightly superior team -- for the 3rd consecutive game. I don't give a crap...the better team usually does win....one other thing, if the 9'ers are better coached at holding and not getting caught, well, that is another feather in their cap.

I am pi**ed off beyond belief that the Pack couldn't hold a lead ... until they can hold a lead against a better team and actually win the damned game ... there really is nothing to talk about in this regard.

Incidentally, prior to the game, all Matthews said was that the Pack would hit the QB. Everything else is Harbaugh creating motivational smoke and mirrors and the media, as usual, fell for that crap. Matthews tackle was unnecessary, but, I'm glad he did it. I'm glad McCarthy took the damned 5-yard penalty too. What I'm not happy about is that the Packers couldn't hold a lead and couldn't hold it in the manner they did ... 80 yards in 5 plays...****, the Pack didn't deserve to win.

Next up... Washington

 

[longtimefan]

He ran over and grabbed Matthews jersey to lock him up, as he was coached to do according to Harbaugh,

So why didnt Boldin lock up Bush, instead of SLAPPING him?

When Clay slaps, he makes a dig at him, when his own player slaps, nothing is said about it..

Clay was wrong and if he is fined, so be it..but people should be consistent about Boldin

 

[Forget Favre]

Uh...

He BEGAN his leap 2 feet from the sideline. I ask in what possible situation would it be necessary to LEAVE YOUR FEET and LAUNCH yourself only 2 feet from the sideline.

Come on now...be reasonable.

Maybe, just maybe your right.
But if you are a defending player and last time the QB ran past you time and again and even scored a TD or two on your butt then next time you meet you should stop him.
So I can't bring myself to blame CM for doing what he did.
I'm sure he had his reasons.
I don't think he wanted to hurt CraperKnickers.
If he did, then he would of on that play or on the awesome sack.

40whiners coaches should learn that if they have a running QB, then this kind of stuff will happen when they make themselves vulnerable by running.

 

[Forget Favre]

I saw lots of the same from the Packers O-line not getting called. A couple of them were so blatant that even the announcers commented on it.

I feel like or IMO those "announcers" are biased against the Pack.
Gimme Jon Gruden over those two unqualified clowns any day of the week.

 

[Mighty Mike 77]

94niners.....one question... did Matthews forced Staley to go there?