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Ramblings by MNVIKES4EVAR

Discussion in 'Smack Area' started by PackersRS, Sep 13, 2010.

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    Kitten Feline Cheesehead

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    My point was INTs are not a good thing no matter whose fault it is. It's going to get you stomped out there. Granted 2 of them are not Favre's fault, those receivers need to make those catches. But how do you explain all the others? What is he gonna do, blame God? Any team (can't say QB, not always his fault) with a high rate of INTs is going to have problems. Opposing teams D are gonna study these picks and smell blood. As for putting it on the offensive lineman, I don't buy that as an excuse. My advice would be to get a new QB, one who is mobile. But please let the Packers have their shot at him first! Favre owes us that!
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    I was never putting anything more out that than "statistics" don't always tell the whole story, that's all, so please stop making this into more than it should be. Favre tore you guys up last year, and he will most likely do it once more this year, possibly twice? Favre has never been that mobile to be honest, and like I already posted, he was sacked MUCH LESS while in GB (so it looks as if you guys put pass protection as #1 year after year), I thought we would have too, but we did nothing in this years draft so whatever..

    Favre was rushed and sacked a lot last season, yet only threw 7 picks, which some of those were plainly receivers/O-Line faults as well. Don't get me wrong, Favre has made and will continue to make stupid decisions, but beyond that since coming to the Vikings he has been nothing short of impressive! Even this year, he has nothing to throw to, except maybe Harvin and TE Shaincoe, but if your a defense you cover them and Favre has nothing, but it's a long season so we will see how he and the team responds.
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    Got you! I just got into a rant about INTs there. Why the hell does Favre always wind up in the middle of everything? I wish him no ill will, I like him when he was a Packer but he is playing for the enemy now. I don't know about comparing last years stats, there is value in it but everything changes so fast. The teams he is playing against this year are totally different than last years. Likewise the Vikings themselves are a different team than last year. Favre has had an impressive career not only in its longevity but what he has done with it. If this is his last, I hope he can go out with some good memories. Hopefully not on his back in Lambeau Field staring up at God knows what.
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    Lol badmouthing? You really are delusional, aren't you? I responded to some crazy fan talking about Favre in a GB-CHI fan and blaming Rodgers for the game!

    Yeah, poor guy, playing with such crappy players! If only he could've build some chemistry with them... Boo hoo. It's also the receivers' and the OL's fault that Favre is playing like crap, right? It's always someone else...

    And no, Rodgers' 3 ints are all on him. Last night's was all on him, though it wasn't important. But Favre's turnovers weren't also important were they? A fumble in the RZ for TD, an int in the opposing RZ, and so on...

    BTW still waiting on you to pinpoint when I wasn't fair to you, when I let Packers' fans off the hook.

    But I have a feeling that you'll never reply to that. And I also have a feeling that we'll not be hearing from you very soon. 10/25 soon.
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    I remember making similar excuses for Brett year after year. MNVIKES, your postings are like a trip down memory lane for me. Brett was like a drug for me. He gave me so many thrills of the crazy pinpoint passes into triple coverage, so many "ups" of last minute winning drives, so many scenes of pure joy. But, somehow, there always was a "downer" just around the corner. Always a "WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING, BRETT?!" kind of thing. We just put up with it year after year after year.

    I watched the Vikings games this year, too. Cannot recall each of the INTs as you can, but at least one of them was typical Brett. Wide open receiver in the flat, the Vikings really needing a sustained scoring drive from their veteran leader, yet Brett decides to win it all with one deep throw to a not-open double-covered receiver. I even predicted it. Said to myself, "Brett is going deep" as he was barking the count. The INT, to me, was a foregone conclusion. I have seen this so many times before, I cannot believe I defended him all those years.

    On another red zone drive, probably one of the "sure catch passes" that you referred to: Brett threads the needle and fires a bullet into the endzone and it bounces off the receiver's hands. Ok, should have been caught as we expect elite receivers to do so. However, this receiver perhaps wasn't up to the task and it ends up an INT. Also, it was thrown behind so the receiver had to torque his torso a fair bit-- so, I believe "a reasonable person" could put some blame on Favre. Brett took a chance with a lesser-than-Randy-Moss receiver, fired a slightly off-target laser into a crowd, and lost. Seen it before many times.

    So, bottom line for me is that I am happy he is not my team's QB any more. He gave the Packer fans a ton of thrills, helped win a SB, but also gave us an unhealthy addiction to his problems. I think part of this boards' ongoing anger with Favre is that we now realize how hooked we were on him and how we were duped by his charisma and good-old-boy crap.

    If you are happy to have him, good for you. He will no doubt give you some thrills along with way and win some big games. That SF game ending sure was cool, wasn't it? Guess he is an upgrade over what you had, much like what he brought to GB in '92 after so many bad decades.

    And, yes, it is ok for posters to "badmouth opponents teams here". This IS a Packers forum, no?
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    And don't forget the famous Holmgren chew outs over "rocket balls" where Favre throws them so hard they are bound to bounce off of the receiver or zing through his hands.
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    Gee.
    I had no idea that somehow when BrINT Fail handles the football that it can all of a sudden grow a brain, be aware and just take itself out if his hands and zoom across the field and bounce off a receiver's chest/hands/helmet whatever and end up as an interception which then BrINT can't be blamed for!
    Gosh. Learn something new everyday.

    My point is that it doesn't matter how the ball gets intercepted. An interception is an interception. Period. And it is always, always the QBs fault since he is the one who threw it.
    Wanna have your receiver catch it so it doesn't end up as an INT?
    Then show up to training camp.
    Sure, the receiver can share in some of the blame but when they show stats during the game you don't see, "Missed balls by receivers that ended up in TDs for the other team."
    What you see is INT by the QB.

    I dunno if I have selective memory or not but it seems that BrINT would rather throw the ball to one receiver even if all 11 defense players were surrounding him and to risk the INT rather than to throw it away.
    He would rather make a play than to take a down.

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