Ramblings by MNVIKES4EVAR

PRICELESS!! :happy0005:

contradiction...you are no cheesehead by any means

Question to all Packers fans:

Does this sentence gives me the right to call him a troll and edit all his posts? Please comment. Waiting on feedback.

Thank you.

Yes. Somehow, this was Rodgers fault and we should be ashamed that he's not throwing 6 picks like Favre is.

Damn, so wish Favre was killing my team...

yes, because it shows he doesnt even know what it is and that there is a large difference between giving opinion and antagonizing, which he also doesnt know the difference of.

my 2 cents.

That would make you a "fantastic moderator"! Actually, since someone pointed out that I don't know what trolling means, that would leave me as being vulnerable and/or uneducated. In the long run, for you to delete my posts would be nothing more than discriminatory and unfair to ALL BLOGGERS/POSTERS/MEMBERS/ETC...go for it

My 2 cents? Your pissed that the Packers lost and someone from a DIFFERENT team is here telling you the issues with your team! Is it that big of a deal for me to come here and: agree with your own fan-base here that the running game sucks, your offensive line is old and crippling, and the penalties are second-nature to the team? Wow, sounds like the truth to me? But then again, Vikings fans don't belong here and know nothing about ANYTHING right?

I guess it's also out of my element to discuss my predictions pertaining to the next Packer/Lions game? Then go into detail about why I predict what will happen (RB's injury/GB offensive line/GB running game struggling/etc) is overboard as well? Interesting...I guess unless your a GB fan wearing blinders you don't belong on these boards, pathetic!

you are so far off base its hilarious. in no way shape or form did i act as if "you're a viking fan and your opinion doesnt matter then" i dont even know where you're getting that idea from.

i quoted your first post which was not you expressing your opinion it was trolling. so like a fool i decided to feed you with a response, which is what you were seeking, and thats when you jumped onto the classic oh im a vikings fan so that must be why argument.

ive agreed with a lot of the stuff you've said but for whatever reason your trying to make my posts out to something they arent. All i did was point out that the first post i quoted was more trolling than opinion...

MY bad, I was referring to the MOD in that, but happened to click on your post because it was the last one before I posted, sorry.

You said yourself that troll is acceptable. Which is not.

Trolling leads to posts being moderated/user being banned.

Trolls =/= Bloggers/Posters/Members.

About citing ignorance: http://www.packerforum.com/f8/pf-policy-read-before-posting-15918.html http://www.packerforum.com/f8/pf-policy-personal-attacks-16660.html

Ah, I said it was ok, but that doesn't necessarily mean I knew what it meant right? You have pointed it out know, however I feel as if my points of view are not intentionally being thrown out to piss people off, some responsibility has to be put on posters regarding self-control in responding to a rival fans thought, suggestions, concerns, ideas, etc. There are way too many fans from every single team who will take some suitable criticisms and spin it to create a **** storm, but again that is not my intention. I am here to give my takes (coming from a different fanbase) and correlate it with how much hatred there is within the GB fanbase towards the Vikes fanbase (and vice-versa). People will always disagree about topics, that is the nature of forums, but please don't make it seem as if I am get less slack compared to fellow Packer fans who use threats and argue with each other all the time, being from a different team shouldn't make a damn difference if all you are worried about is GB fans on here getting pissed off because someone sees things differently which creates an argument.

Even before I came here, and after I leave there will be endless name-calling, arguing, etc etc...so no need to scurry around and begin deleting anything, I am just another FOOTBALL fan with different views/opinion/take/concerns/etc, kapeesh?

No kapeesh, because the facts do not subrscribe to the theory.

It's not about being a Vikings fan. Ask packerbob.

It's about behavior. When you say that trolling is ok, that's trolling. Not knowing what trolling is doesn't excuse you, ignorance of the rules don't mean they don't apply to you. And when your first post is this: http://www.packerforum.com/f14/favre-comes-back-desperate-desperate-vikings-21968-2.html#post286865 you can't call that you're just giving your opinion. That won't fly.

Because of the history, of HOW you came to this site, I have all the right to ask other posters if you're bothering them, and act accordingly.

Then do it, I could honestly care less. It's obvious me creating a banter pertaining to Favre is simply to heartbreaking for MOST Packer fans, thus my so called "insults" are way to easily taken as serious and rule-breaking in nature, seriously! It's not like back and forth Favre talk is solely pinned on me now is it? Are you warning all the packer fans about calling me names? Acting childish stating Favre should get hit by a truck, break his legs, get carted off the field, get thrown off a cliff, etc etc? No way, that would be most likely agreeing with what is truly going on in your head right? This is nothing more than a passionate debate (the whole Favre subject you brought up), so for you to pat the PACKER FANS on the rear end solely because they side with more of what you truly believe, I would call this forum nothing more than a house of close-minded blinders! However, this is of course only pointing out a select number of posters, and maybe a mod??

Why not allow back and forth action between Vikes/Packer fans? And yes, even if it is annoying to Packer fans? Do you ask Packer fans if they want fellow Packer fans post's deleted, or their account suspended/deactivated/etc? All over someone disagreeing with another? Calling each other names? I highly doubt it for the most part! But, when I come here and "rarely" call people names and/or get a rise out of someone because they see things differently, my account relies on the fans of a rival football team? Wow, I think you need to take another sip of coffee and reconsider the true value of forums bud....it's not ALL about homers, it is welcome to everyone, and especially if you can get some blood boiling! IT happens enough within the same fanbase, so there is absolutely nothing wrong with it happening between different fanbases:tommy:

Show me where I behave like that, that I "pat the Packers fans on the back" for calling you names.
Show facts, or shut the hell up about being treated unfairly.

Ok, now your badmouthing an opponents team? But that is ok for you to do right? Not me? Whatever...

Anyway, Favre has 6 INT, with 3 of those being tipped passes due to poor offensive blocking and effortless/lack of talent receiver core (catchable passes bouncing off their chest or hands and no fighting for the ball), but the other 3 were simply "I am the interceptor" type throws. Has ANY of Rodgers 3 INT been tipped/deflected/or gone off any receivers chests? Didn't think so....

your on a Packers forum, seriously what do you expect? everyone to let you openly criticize the team that everyone is here to cheer for?

and yes Rodgers interception last night was a hail Mary that Urlacher tried to knock down but knocked it right into the arms of another Bear

I meant at the "line of scrimmage".....so no....

this is a dumb argument, interceptions happen, they're part of the game. it doesnt matter how they happen because its just another number in the stat book. so by your logic i can say well one of Rodgers interceptions against the Eagles just got away from him when he threw it cause the ball was wet, so scratch that one off the list...

No, that is still on the QB, wet ball? Come one, but when the defender get's his hand on it because he wasn't blocked at the line of scrimmage, that screams it was on the offensive line, not the QB. Also, the other 2 that bounced off of players chests (Harvin against Miami in the end zone), and Berrian against NO when it hit his chest and went straight up in the air, that is completely on the WR, no QB.

Wet ball? ALL QB! Nobody else touches the ball but QB and gets intercepted is all on the QB. Actually, it is not a dumb argument. People would think that Favre has thrown 6 picks because he is wreckless, but if in all reality only half of them were because of that. To the average fan it may not matter, but to people who know and care about stats, it does matter and is a legit argument! Just like how the Vikings had such a good record last year, why or how? Well, one because they were good, but another because their schedule was weak as hell. A second, the Saints win last year, some fans just might see the Saints as outplaying the Vikings plain and simple, but people like me and you know that the Viking without a doubt smoked the Saints in their own home, yet shot themselves in the foot with bad penalties and fumbles. That loss should hardly be credited to the Saints when looking at performance, but by simply looking at the numbers is was ALL THE SAINTS! The same argument applies to INT and Favre, get it?

yeah i get it, its still a dumb argument though. Cause its not like people look at Favres interception record and say well x amount werent his fault...that doesnt happen. by the end of the year you'll have forgotten how many "werent his fault" and all youll know is the total. just like if i were to look at the quarterback of a team im not familiar with and how many interceptions he has, i dont sit here and ponder how many werent his fault i say oh he has x amount...

It sounds hypocritical in a way, but Favre is different, and mainly in this argument because he played for your team a long time, he is teased by many Packer fans as being the interceptor, and is now the QB of my team. So, I think in our case this does have standing ground as a legitimate argument. One reason being how much crap he has already gotten by Packer fans THIS year because he has 6 INT's in only 3 games, but when the INT's themselves are analyzed, it surely supports that BF isn't as rotten as his number show (i.e. valid as hell and excusable in nature). If a Viking and/or Packer fan were to ignore the reason for the INT's this year they would obviously be ignorant towards the fact that he is solely responsible for only half of them! I am guessing that the same thing happened all the time in GB, but obviously the BIG MOMENT non-excusable ones are probably more in the memory versus anything else...

idk i guess i just see saying stuff like that is more of an excuse than anything. but still theres no denying that Favre is struggling at the start of this year, even if only 3 of those interceptions were "his fault." He definitely is not in sync with the receivers. if the Vikings defense didnt save face in those first couple games they would have been blown out, especially by Miami. seemed like everytime they turned the ball over the Vikings D took it right back. thats why once they get it together offensively the Vikings will undoubtedly be pretty good. but when they finally put it all together is the important part, and the bye this week should definitely help them out

That's not the point, it's that 2 of his INT's bounced off his receivers chests (sure catch passes), that cannot be put on him by any reasonable person. Second, if an offensive lineman lets a defensive lineman through which results in a tipped pass at the line of scrimmage, there is not match a QB like BF can do about that either, he is far from mobile.

well from that scenario it sounds like he is being rushed, about to be sacked, and he just threw it into the DL hands and it was either tipped or picked off right there. so if that was the case then i guess the better option would have been to take the sack instead of forcing a throw?