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Discussion in 'Smack Area' started by packerpower, Mar 21, 2010.

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    HJezzzzzzzzzzz...

    We also were in the Card game BECAUSE of Rodgers...


    But lets use your logic

    Brett lost the Giant and the Philly games...and the biggest reason we lost the Rams game was Bretts 6 ints..

    Its almost 3 years removed from Brett and some people just can't let it go

    This argument has gone one in every forum since the day Brett wanted back....

    Your positive he would have led us to a SB win(even tho he hadnt done it in 13 years, with some great teams)

    And lot of others are okay with Rodgers
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    Dude, really, chill.

    Favre is not Jesus in football pads. Look at how he has ended every single one of his last 5 seasons.

    2009- Choked it hardcore when he threw that INT that sealed the deal for the Queens.

    2008- Well he was hurt and that is why he throws picks right? (sarcasm)

    2007- Another gut check time interception to lose a big playoff game? Am I sensing a trend here?

    2006- 8-8 season. Not entirely any one specific players fault. Yet, Favre threw 28 TDs and 15 INTs with a season ending rating of 72.7.

    2005- 4-12 season. Lovely. Favre threw 20 TDs and 29 INTs. Rating: 70.9. Mediocre is the word that comes to mind.

    Those last 5 years, sure he won some games, but he lost bigger ones. Not his team, him. Favre. The diva that can't tell jerseys apart. Favre has had 6 SEASONS where he has thrown as many or more picks as Rodgers has thrown in his ENTIRE CAREER.

    Something to think about.

    And besides, how can you be the "realpackerbacker" when the guy you're backin isn't a Packer???
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    Everyone is entitled to a bad day here and there. And YOU forget the Dallas game the week after the Tampa game where he tore them a new one, leading them on an 80 yard, 8 minute long TD drive.

    Brett was getting his *** kicked in that Dallas game in 2007. Aaron comes in and throws for a TD on his first drive of the game. In fact, Rodgers is who kept it close. We were already playing behind thanks to the lack of good play by your savior. At least Rodgers kept us from being blown out.

    And there's yet another flaw with your logic. Aaron has been the starting QB for 2 years now, not 18. There's no logical way possible he's failed in more big games than Brett.
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    McCarthy is at fault for the '07 Dallas game. If you remembered your Packer history you'd know that going into the weeks prior to that game they were running several wide receiver sets and shotgun formations. FOR the Dallas game, McCarthy changed the game plan, and the whole offense fell on it's face. Favre goes down, and the Wunderkid goes in, and what do you know...the smart pills kick in for McCarthy and all of a sudden we're back to several wide receiver sets and shotgun formation...and Rodgers STILL ONLY held the deficit as is. He didn't cut into it, nor did he win the game.

    I'm not gonna touch your argument about the Tampa game. There's no way if Rodgers is ANY level of QB that we lose that game. I mean come on giving the Bucs their FIRST win of the season with a rookie QB? How can ANY Packer fan stand behind Rodgers on that one?

    And you're right about Rodgers' failures. But I'm right about his successes...oh wait...there aren't any! The guy is a fantasy owners dream and a Packer fans nightmare. Be happy with Jeff George version 2k10...I expect more from the starting quarterback of the Green Bay Packers.
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    Derga Smash,

    Ok let's talk record. Brett's first YEAR *though not a full year* as a starter he won 10 games. Aaron's first full year as a starter he won 6. Brett as a starter in GB had 1 losing season in what 16? Aaron's had 1 in what...2?

    I back ANY player that makes the Packers a BETTER team, and slam any player that makes the team worse. That's how I can be a REALPackerbacker. Aaron makes us worse. If he wasn't a choke artist we would've won the NFC North division last year, beat the Vikings twice, and who knows...WE probably would've lost to the Saints in the NFC championship game.

    Does anyone remember Brett's 2nd game as a packer...on field in a game? Come from behind victory on a beautiful bomb to Kitrick Taylor to beat the Bengals. Does anyone remember Aaron's 2nd game on the field as a Packer? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the game where he broke his foot?

    Take off the rose colored glasses, this kid is a choke artist.
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    indy 0-10 beat Packers

    rookie q/b

    Brett how many mvp by then?
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    So you're saying no player is allowed to have a bad game ever? Didn't Fraud and his super dooper ultra-powered Minne-ha-ha Vikes lose to the hapless Panthers last season? And because he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet, in only his second year as a starter, he's nothing more than a loser? I mean, Brett's so awesome he only won one! In 16 years!

    Geez man, you don't usually win it all right away. Hell, Peyton Manning sucked his first several seasons before finally becoming a two time league MVP and a Super Bowl MVP. Rodgers has proven to be a pretty good QB on the verge of being one of today's greats. I think he deserves a wee bit longer to prove himself, don't you?
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    Isnt Peyton a 4 time mvp?
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    That's right, he is. My bad, totally off my game today. Think I'm gonna shut up now.
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    still waiting for his excuse as to why it was okay for a 2 time mvp ( brett ) to lose to peyton and the 0-10 colts
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    There won't be an answer, only some other reason as to why Aaron Rodgers will "never ever be in Favre's league" and is "nothing but a choke artist." Never mind that Favre, after almost two decades playing the game still makes rookie mistakes and throws away games.

    I think the simple fact is some people just don't want to admit Rodgers is every bit as talented as Favre. So instead they try and compare the careers of a guy who'se played for almost two decades to a guy who is just entering his third season as a starter. Makes no sense to me.
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    Did I ever say it was ok for Favre to lose that game in '97? You guys need to let the things Brett did and games he lost during the Clinton administration go! You need to concentrate on the games Rodgers has choked in during the late Bush and early Obama administrations.

    Now I've asked this question before I'll ask again: Who here is ok with Aaron Rodgers in the final two minutes of a game trying to win the game? I'm not! That's all my point has ever been about Aaron. I worry more and expect less wins with him than I EVER did with Favre.

    And as far as Aaron's great numbers and Pro-bowl appearance...good for him! But I ask you. Would you guys rather have had John Elway...or Dan Marino...and BOTH went to multiple pro-bowls.
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    LOL point was you had an issue with Rodgers and one example was he "chocked" vs the bucs

    And actually it wasnt Peyton that Brett lost to vs the colts in 97...Yes the 0 and 10 Colts that had a no name q/b beat Brett

    It was Paul Justin...WHO????

    Brett threw 2 ints

    Last offensive play vs Philly playoffs

    Last offensive play vs Giants playoffs

    Last play by Brett in 01 playoffs vs the Rams

    2nd to last play by Brett in 02 Falcons playoff at home game

    Vikings vs New Orleans game by Brett??

    Hint???

    ALL a turn over by Brett

    so in my eyes Rodgers has a way to go match up to Brett
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    Ok ok ok ok ok Aaron's not as bad as Brett's worst. But he's not as GOOD as Brett's normal, let alone the extra-ordinary games he's had over the years.

    Every "Brett sucks" stat you have. I have 3 'Aaron sucks' stats. Every "Aaron is the Green Bay Packers god" stat you have. I have 3 'Aaron can't hold Brett's jock' stats. Remember you've only seen his professional chokes. I've seen at least one of his college performances.

    BTW...why didn't you answer my questions?
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    So why is it worse for Aaron to lose to the 0-7 Bucs than it is for brett to lose to the 0-10 colts? I sense a double standard here.
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    No one really is..

    but just like Brett he does keep us in games :)
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    Yup and its only because Brett got us a SB win 13 years ago

    If he took the Pack or even the Viks to a Sb in last 5 year--two or three times then yeah ok, makes sense...

    But we all know he hasnt been to the SB in 13 years and the 2 chances he has had his final plays to PULL A WIN he tossed an int..

    not once both BOTH times

    and yet he doesnt choke??
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    Games: 32 CMP: 691 ATT: 1077 YDS: 8472 AVG: 7.85 TD: 58 INT: 20

    Games: 31 CMP: 620 ATT: 993 YDS: 6530 AVG 6.6 TD: 37 INT 37

    One of those is Favre in his first two years, one is Rodgers in his first two years. Which is more impressive?
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    highest passer rating in NFL history. Thats all I got for ya.
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    I mean, there's just a hand few people who don't think Rodgers is a very good QB. And those, coincidentally, are Brett Favre fans.

    If you can find ONE opinion of another person, who's not a Brett Favre fan, that says Rodgers isn't a very good QB, I'll say so. But you can't.
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    Oh yeah man. You heard the comments coming from Arizona's defense after the playoff game: "I don't want to play against that guy again."

    Here's the thing Rodgers bashers need to realize- Favre had almost two decades to cement his legacy. Can't really compare him to Rodgers when Rodgers has only been starting for two friggin years!

    Two years ago it was "Rodgers can't come from behind to win us any games." Last season he did that. Two years ago it was, "Rodgers can't take us to the playoffs." Last season he did that. Now it's, "He'll never take us to a Super Bowl." I guess we'll have to see.

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