NorthWestCheeseHead
Cheesehead
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I didn’t misquote you, I used your words to illustrate what I see as your hypocrisy. You posted Tbone was presumptuous in explaining your decision making process and I used your phrasing to show you are being presumptuous in explaining Jennings’ decision making process. I thought that was clear as I used ‘..’ instead of “..” and put it in italics.
Most people when given the choice between staying in their current job for less money vs. taking a similar job earning more money will opt for the latter, other things being equal. It looks to me that was Tbone’s point and your response seemed somewhat irrational IMO.
You apparently don’t know how negotiating works. Jennings and his agent, like every other intelligent bargainer, ask for more than they expect to make and the team offers less than they’re willing to pay. Calling either greedy or miserly is just silly IMO.
One last thing: The example of trying to get the best price for an item not being “greedy” is along the same lines as most people wanting to maximize their compensation. Adding “But relax NorthWestCheeseHead, I’m not accusing you of being a blatant “item seller”!” was a reference made in jest meant to point out your hypersensitivity about Tbone assuming you’re are like most people and would choose more pay for the same job rather than less. Whether or not you sell items online or otherwise misses the point.
My quip about not selling items online was meant in jest as well and intended to illustrate that you should stop trying to tell me about me before you know what I'm about. The italics was more of a clue, but I thought I saw the double quotes; obviously though, I was mistaken. I never claimed to be able to divulge GJ's decision making process..All I said was:
I'm only talking about the attitude that I've seen him exemplify in interviews and articles written about the situation. I'm well aware of what Tbone was saying, and in my replies all I've ever contended is that he has no basis to be speaking for me in such a "matter of fact" manner. And the implication by him that I was in any way jealous of GJ and his pay checks was insulting. And really you guys balking over me labeling Gj "greedy" I find highly irrational mostly because the only thing y'all have used to refute my claims is to state that, 'I would do the same in his shoes', in essence.At this point I just want Jennings gone, and I don't care who he signs with. I just can't stand the blatant greed he is displaying currently.
As well, "all things being equal" was never stated in Tbone's post. Be that the case though, I still think that the example is only applicable as an academic thought exercise and not reflective of the real world. In life there are a slew of points to consider prior to accepting a job offer, even if the only difference is money - which would never be the case mind you. And your contention that it is how everyone handles their business is a pretty generalized notion, I don't think you have the credibility to speak on the behalf of 6 billion people or their motivations in their respective career advancement moves. And no, I've never spoke for Jennings. I've only ever talked about my perceptions of the situation, and how I felt about it.
I actually do understand how negotiating works, at least from an academic and theoretical standpoint. As for the practical I'm not so great at it, I think, so I don't really dabble in it all too much. However I wasn't calling GJ greedy over his initial asking price, I did so over his apparent lack of willingness to negotiate that figure down to something that was both palatable to GJ and the Packers Organization. In fact in almost, I can speak for all, of his interviews where Jennings was asked about his contract situation he always said something to the effect of: 'I'm going to make sure I get paid the most that I can.' Which all things being equal, your right about this, wouldn't really be exemplifying "greed" per-say. However, as money seems to be the single motivating factor that was driving Mr. Jennings in his search for greener pastures, and that all things are not the same between the Packers and Vikings organizations I'm not sure what else to label it. Maybe "rapacious" is a bit more apt, though the two terms are synonymous.