Offensive Line

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NOT true Mineral. If you read any other postings, you would in fact see where i have repeatedly mentioned the 1970's and 80's and how i remained loyal even though the Packers sucked during that 20 plus year span. (For proof, just read "The Vikings Suck" thread in the smack area) The person there said how it takes more heart to remain a Viking fans because of their track record. How it's easy to be a Packer fan because of their history.)
Now..........it's truely funny, because the Lions have done WHAT for how many decades? Yet you say I have "selective memory?" No, i call it an over all "Winning History". We suffered through 2 decades of Lion-Like years, then the Packers returned to winning ways. The Lions are still the Lions. I'm not trying to be mean, just factual. The Packers stunk last year, and the one thing the Lions fans hung there hat on was "Well, we beat you in week one!" And yes, your team DID win that game. This year i think it will be different. Will i be right? I don't know. I can't tell the future. I guess we will see. Thats why the games are played.

That was uncalled for. Must be that time of the month huh? Seems to be 5-7 days of every month you forget this is a discussion board and don't need to take everything so seriously, from me Going back to 'uncalled for'...

No one asked for your pathetic, ignorant, idiotic, moronic, self centered, egotistical, sadistically stupid, arrogant, childish response.
Next time you take a dump I hope you fall in and your dog flushes you down with the rest of the piles of **** in there.

The facts??? Here's the facts:

The fact is that the Pack had their worst season of the Favre era.

The perennial losers known as the Lions managed to finish ahead of the Packers for once, and you are bandying about on here as if this is the finest accomplishment in the history of the Lions franchise. It is nice to see you set such high expectations for your team. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so utterly pathetic. Enjoy your little moment in the sun. Too bad that no one else even noticed.

BTW: I hope you were aware that the Super Bowl was in Detroit this year. Which, incidentally will be as close as your precious Kitties will ever get to one.

GO PACK!!!

Robert C. Hedley

speaking of uncalled for...check your PM zero.

Unlike the Lions, whom only have decades in which they sucked. :lol:

GO PACK!!!

Robert C. Hedley

I believe what I said was that Kitna was put in situations where the game was already unwinnable, as opposed to being a full-time starter like Favre. Of course those stats are going to be off. He's going to be throwing long bombs and playing from behind. How is that a fair comparison?
Just take a look at what Favre did in the unwinnable games that were his OWN fault. 29 ints.

Also, someone earlier mentioned injuries. Folks, for the last time, injuries are not excuses. If your injuries were that bad and that's the reason you lost so many games, then you really lost the games because you had no depth.
Again, I've said this: Injuries happen. If you don't have depth, you're going to lose.
And your O-Line has no depth and that's a big problem. One of your starters is looking like he might not play this year at all. It happens. As a team, you're supposed to have a serviceable backup that can at least hold his own with a strong supporting cast.
There's a reason why it's a 53 man roster. All 53 of them are supposed to be able to play football at a professional level. Don't blame the injuries, blame the depth.

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Here's another fact: Your offensive line blows. Just like last year. You still only have Driver and Franks to throw to. Did I mention how much your line blows?
Why is it that you believe that this year will be any different?

Also... I know for a fact that Favre is better than Kitna. All I'm saying is that Kitna's good years as a starter are comparable IN SOME WAYS as some of Favre's have been of late. I'm saying that based on Favre's last year's stats and the stats of the last time Kitna was a starter, Kitna WAS better. Not better than Favre in his prime, but equal to Favre in recent years. In effect, if Kitna sucks, then so does Brett AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER.
Now I don't know if he's going to be better this year, but Mike Martz has really talked highly of him. With Martz surely wanting another shot at a HC position, I doubt he'd be blowing smoke. Because if he doesn't deliver, he'll never be a HC again. And I like the fact that although Kitna's been in the league for 10 years, the last three he hasn't taken many hits. He's still fresh. No major injuries throughout his career to speak of.
So no... Favre's a HoF QB. Kitna, barring some sort of miracle, isn't. But he's serviceable and it's a very real possibility that he will be ahead of Favre in many statistical categories this year. Don't deny that. Favre is far from the best QB in the league at this point in his career.

mods you gonna do something about this blatant namecalling or do i get to respond, and we know I can respond... I'll let the mods handle this tool.

Wanna talk smack? Do it here. No factual information required. (Please keep it football/sports releated) NOT safe for all ages!- ps Ryan, its 'related'

Pretty much skipped out on the sports theme, but hey you of all people should know about ignoring guidlines.

Can't handle it, leave the Smack Area.

Here's a tip. Notice 'uncalled for'.

bump.

whats that, you just admitted you're breaking a rule? and the mods allow it? tsk tsk (thats me playing the zero crybaby card that you play all the time, pussyman)

heres a tip, drink gasoline. I know its expensive these days but...you can manage.

Funniest thing said in this thread! I wonder if the Lions Players have easier access to the game tickets.

To be fair, you haven't come up with any retorts to my posts, either. I answered yours... how about a little common courtesy?

Please, I would also appreciate it if you all tried to stay on-topic. This thread is titled "Offensive Line," and your trophy ten years ago has nothing to do with your current line. In fact, are any of those '97 alumni currently on your team? I seriously doubt it, but I honestly don't know.
But anyways, this is about your offensive line and how it's going to fail to protect Favre again this year. I don't mind if you reference your other offensive players, obviously. But the Lombardi years and the mid-nineties have nothing to do with your current offensive line.
So I won't be responding to talks of anything more than the last few years about not only my team, but yours as well.

My apologies. I got caught up in associating with a waste of skin. What post did you direct to me that you'd like a reply to? Some of your posts didn't get a reply from me because well, it wasn't worth my time

Some??? :lol:

ONLY IF THEY KNOW MIKE TICE!!!!!!LOLOL!!! :lol:

Hey Mineral!
Favre and Henderson are still left from the SB.
And i think the O line will be MUCH improved this year. The new guys are looking pretty darn good. They are "unknowns" for sure, but everyone is until they do good (or really bad).

I'll give you that, cheesey. They're probably not as bad as I'm making them sound, but I've just got the feeling that Favre is going to need all the protection that he can get.

And here's where I should be making sense to you all... Let's think about this from an outside of Wisconsin/outside of the realm of Packer fans perspective.
I'm not a Bears fan, BUT if my offensive line was weak (and it might get better over the course of the season, but it is weak right now), I would definitely be worried about facing teams like Chicago and Detroit. Both teams have guys that can get to the QB and if Favre is gotten to or hurried HE DOES MAKE BAD DECISIONS THAT COST GAMES. HE DOES.
Brett Favre can still make plays, I've got no doubt of that. But he needs some time in the pocket and with your o-line and the d-lines of the NFC North haven't given him that time in recent years.
Now I'm not saying Detroit is a great team or even anything close. We're smack-dab in the middle of rebuilding ourselves, but we do have a solid defensive line. And unless your o-line is taking genius pills, I've got to believe that they'll suffer again this year.

edit: Cheesey... I was talking about players from your O-Line. I know Favre and Henderson are still there. That's pretty obvious.

Holy Shiite!!!! I actually think I agree with one of mineral's posts and didn't think he was a jackass immediately after reading it!!!

I'm marking that down on the calendar!

You know what? I'm going to say something about Favre that will piss off most Packers fans, but if Favre played behind Denver's line, I think he might still be a premier QB. Say what you want, but he IS NOT a premier QB right now. Given the personnel of GB, I think Elway or Marino would tank also. So it might not be all Favre's fault, IMO.
At the same time, I think it's great that Favre wants to end his career with GB. It's very noble. As I've said, I do quietly admire where Favre has taken your club and that he wishes to ride it off into the sunset. He gets my accolades for that, specifically. Lord knows Detroit has never had a QB with that character and skill.
But I just have to keep thinking that most of the other offensive starters are setting up Favre for what might be a season-ending year. We'll never know what his stats would've been like last year if only he had decent pass protection.