not about the money

Just because it's on paper as Favre's fumble, doesn't mean it's his in theory. Have you seen the hand-off to AP? Probably not, otherwise you would know what I am talking about. That QB rating isn't that good know, but by having him keep the TEAM in the game is something else. Wasn't it you that said Rodgers doesn't play defense? Well, Favre doesn't either, so if you intend on not being a hypocrite, the reason for Brees's fantastic rating was due to lack of defense, which also put's ALLOT of pressure on the offense to make up for the F'ups. It wasn't all Favre's fault, he should never had to be in that position; could he have made better choices? Sure, but every QB has plays where they SHOULD HAVE made better choices, that's the nature of a very competitive sport right? Mainly his fault? No, but I would say he def contributed to it, of course.

God, your like a nagging woman, I have seen articles that said he hasn't took the money, I don't know what else to tell ya. Everything you and I have seen is all media BS, nothing is considered FACT, it's not like someone has hacked into Brett's account or mind in proving one answer or the other is factual, drop it......

In the end, Favre is worth EVERY PENNY he makes, he has served his time and after putting up the numbers he did last year, he should be making more than anyone on the Vikes. He would have came back without the raise, but to turn the offer down regardless is pure stupidity, I know you or I wouldn't turn down a bigger check.....

Resort to name calling now eh? Gosh, I thought that picture of you resembled a grown-up, boy was I wrong. I deal with much worse people on a daily basis, mostly criminals or ignorant A-Holes, but I would never call them that since I have thick-skin (enough years in LE will do that for ya). Anyway, I saw a couple articles that said he wasn't approaching the "extra money" at this time, however could he down the road? Who knows, but I just have a hard time believing any degrading media outlet pertaining to Favre, 99% of them are not credible. Again, it's called sensationalism, it's not uncommon for people to jump to conclusions when talking about Favre, but then again, he hasn't helped himself pertaining to his previous acts/decisions. I am not going to admit wrongness if the articles were there (and they are there), but neither one of us can be sure about the scenario, that's what I am saying. I would not "blindly" as you put it throw BS out there just for shits, but I knew you would retort with some vulgar attack, and by the looks of you, it would only be done over the internet....:good:

NFL network stated that based on his deferred payments (yeah, ok, technically not this year's pay) and the incentives for this year, and signing bonus. Farvt will pocket between $24-28M this year. Minus the $8M deferred from last year that is $16-20M dollars.

Total comp for 2 years with incentives, up to $32,000,000 total. And guess what, he get to skip training camp, and tell Chilly to "STFU, I'm calling the plays now crome dome!" Sounds like a nice gig for him.

"Bert is playing solely for the love of the game. He's just a kid out there gun slinging and having fun". <Blargh>

32M reasons to play if you ask me.

Whatever Burnt is making it's too much. Way too much.
As well as for all other NFL players.
All they do is play for an hour just 16 weeks a year.
(Not including pre and post season.)
The ones who deserve to be making the big bucks are the ones who work every day making a difference in our lives.
School teachers, fire fighters, paramedics, etc. You get the idea.
With that kind of money and certain things it seems to start blurring the line between sport and entertainment.

They should pay each player just a base salary for enough to live on. Bench warmers would make the same as starters. (200-300 k)
Or even an hourly wage. (200-300 bucks an hour.)
And then pay them a bonus if they make it to post season. (Maybe an extra 50-75 grand for each player per game?)
Ya do that, and ticket prices may go down giving those a chance to go to a game who otherwise wouldn't be able to go.
And we would see who really shows up for the love of the game.
There's just too much damn greed in sports. And Burnt is a part of that.

I couldn't disagree with you anymore sans the School teachers, fire fighters, paramedics part. They dont earn enough most of the time.


Professional athletes train for their entire lives for their profession and are worth every penny that they are being paid and only get paid for their jobs on an average of 3 yrs. Favre obviously is the exception since he will be playing in his 20th season.

There are only 32 starting NFL qb's at one time and each should be paid handsomely because out of the 300 million people we have in the country they are the few who can perform well enough for the job.NFL players are constantly working on their skill and dont just go sit on a couch outside of the "16 weeks" where they play for an hour. ESPN just had a special on Jerry Rice where they showed his offseason workout regiment and it paid off huge for him because he was able to play for so long. Players who dont workout in the offseason end up sucking real bad (see JaMarcus Russel.)

Bottom line: The reason they are paid so well is because they have the ability to pack NFL stadiums with 80,000+ fans and draw millions of viewers on TV much the same way how an actor/actress is able to pack theaters and get people to spend money on their movies hence the reason they are paid so well.

Your forgetting one thing, calling you a nagging woman is a insult, but calling someone a little bitch is actually vulgar, there is a difference. Like I said, you think I am a little boy, what a laugh. Try putting your life on the line every day putting on that uniform, once you try that, you have nothing on me in terms of courage. I have rustled with more drugged out fiends and drunkin idiots that I can't even keep track anymore. Have you gone into a crack trailer and/or house that contains multiple armed and dangerous addicts willing to do anything from going back to prison? Umm..doubt it. You can think whatever you want of my personality based on some fricken football blog, but since you had repeatedly mentioned for me to prove some articles, that deserves to be called a nagging women, I don't see "nag" being correlated with men too much, but obviously in your case we can make an exception (from the looks of it). We both have seen articles stating both things, but even if Favre is taking the money, it doesn't make him any less of a player in terms of talent. The bottom line is that the Vikings needed him, and were willing to do whatever it takes, I would never blame my team for doing what it can to be better, it's better than having your owner/organization being cheap and not doing what it needs to do....right?

I wouldn't make the assumption your the only guy on the forum who has put his life on the line for country, duty, honor. That's pretty arrogant in my book. Might as well pull down your pants and ask who has the bigger dick in the room. Who cares. Some people fight crime, others pay you to do it. That's a career choice you made, nobody forced you to do it. Then to brag about it and imply your better than us because you assume we haven't. Well, You know what that makes you look like, an arrogant egomaniac like somebody else we know who's working in Minnesota. LOL

Farvt really does belong in Minnesota. Good riddance.

BTW. Wisconsin has police officer too believe it or not. Heck, even Texas does. Lots of men and women help to protect and defend their communities from crime. Doesn't give you any moral superiority over me just cause your a cop in my book. Am I thankful to law enforcement officers for the difficult job they do, hell yeah. Life would suck bad without em. But, don't try to use it to tell me your better than me or other people. That has the stench of big brother attitude to me.

MNVIKE4EVA,

I assume your on this board because you get self satifaction from talking ****, and trying to annoy people?

It is always about the money, do you think favre would have came back if the vikings were too reduce his salary?? no of course not, obviously if he felt he wasn't getting paid enough he wouldnt come back. if he didnt care about the money wouldnt he be playing for the league minimum or a whole lot less than he is currently making??

and yes Favre has some other motivations for his comeback because of his disagreement with Ted Thompson (no matter who you want to blame or side with, their was a major disagreement) and wanting to stick it to him , padding his stats, trying to go to a super bowl...whatever they may be we'll never know for sure but with that said Money is always a factor.

Kinda hypocritical of you to call him out for name calling when you were trying to call me names, albeit not very well.. (SpartaTrish? Still trying to get my head around that one...)

I know EVERY player plays for money, do yo think ANYONE in the NFL would continue playing for free? You think Favre is the only one playing for millions? I am not trying to annoy people, but rather have a border battle debate about what you people think about Favre, and TRULY why? I believe it's more of the GB fans eating themselves up, then going back on what they said about Favre while he was in GB (defending him), then turning on him, WOW! What about debating do you find annoying? Well, you just brought yourself into it, so I think by doing that you deserve to be annoyed. Even if you didn't, ignore my posts, put me on the "ignore list", or whatever. By not doing these kind of things, you are enabling the annoyance aren't ya? At least in terms of you being affected by it, but what else is new? People do the same **** when they see a Favre article, report, conference, interview, etc. They bitch about Favre and his decisions, yet they are right there watching the next interview, reading the next newsflash, etc, people do it to themselves, and then use Favre as the reason why they become pissed. Here's a newsflash, don't allow yourself to become pissed about what media puts out there for you!

I never said my career and/or experience makes me morally better in any way, what I did say (without you taking it completely out of context) was that I am far from being a little bitch (like longtimewhatever) stated earlier, that's why I brought it into the conversation, get it? I am not here to talk about my career and what I have done to earn my respects by fellow officers, community, etc, but by bringing up a FACT about myself that proves the "little bitch" comment otherwise I believe is justified without being arrogant. I think you are arrogant as hell for putting "me" down for what I do, rather than thanking me for helping my community. To me, that is more superior in terms of arrogance and/or rude. Did I ever say WI never had officers? Hey, I live on the border of middle/eastern WI and MN, right next to Hudson actually, and just an FYI, I am an officer in WI...lol. Actually, I am licensed in MN and WI (statute, law, etc). So, when did I say I am BETTER than anyone? I stated my balls are bigger because of my career choice, and that was only said because I was called a whiney little bitch. I never asked for pitty, or said my job sucks (which would support you comment on me picking the field). I don't see why you are taking this thing and turning it into something completely out of context, that's not my fault, but rather yours buddy. I will go ahead and admit that a swat member has bigger balls than me, they deal with even more real-time adrenaline pumping ****. Also, I would give a football player the "bigger balls" award in a particular aspect as well, I would't go out there being 6 foot 210 lbs and go head to head with big *** linemen.

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Aren't you over this "money thing" yet dude? I stated there was articles out there (old or not) saying he wouldn't be taking the money, even at that time there was other sources saying he WOULD take the money. Now, there are more sources saying he will, but how does anyone know if he will or not? If the money was there, he should take it. I never stated that my proof was from a "media article" written on August 17, 18, 19, or whatever did I? At this point, I don't think anyone really knows one way or another, and for you to ONLY provide MEDIA proof, which are wrong most of the time anyway, you have nothing concrete, nor do I from that perspective. I just know I saw something saying he wouldn't, old or not is the same **** as the evidence your presenting, and that is because all any of these articles are saying is what these people THINK. Do I know for sure what's going into BF's bank account? Nope, but neither do you..now give it up.

I'm curious ... did this thread turn into "Introduce yourself" ???

Seriously Mr. MNVIKES4EVA... "lighten up" ... - Don't read too much into mere text ... - This is a Message Board ... and as a "Minnesota Fan" ... You are bound to get some "flak" ... - And one more thing ... Stop taking the bait ... ! :banging:

Yup, I agree. I just wanted to get the point across to why I brought in my career choice, and it wasn't to prove that I was "better" than anyone, rather that I am far from being a whiney little bitch, that's all. Thanks.

Nagging - Some times ...
Old - Probably ...
Lady - Hardly ...

So all in all ... getting 2 out of 3 right is pretty decent for a new guy !!! :yahoo:


On a more serious note - I hope your son is doing ok ?