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NFL's Top 100 players: Rodgers ranks ....

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  1. Jules
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    Aaron deserves it.

    Honestly, both Rodgers and Brees I can see being the top 2 next season if they stay healthy. They seem kind of like the new Brady and Manning in a way. Sorry Mikey, Eli has a lot of moxie in the 4th quarter and I really dig it at times, but he is not consistent enough to be ranked as high as you would like.
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    If the poll had been conducted after postseason as oppossed to near the end of regular season Rodgers would not have been near number one in the rankings.
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    Head and shoulders above Brees and Brady. He deserves it.
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    There is not a QB in the history of NFL that is "head and shoulders above" Tom Brady.

    If the poll were conducted after the post season instead of end of regular season it is highly likely that Drew Brees and Tom Brady are ranked 1 and 2 while Aaron Rodgers would not have made top 5. Rodgers collapse in playoffs at home would have affected his ranking dramatically.
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    As opposed to collapsing in the SB? Or is it different when Wes Welker has a key drop as opposed to 6 from the Packers WRs?

    Didnt Brady collapse in the playoffs at home recently against the Ravens? (49.1 QB rating) Or am I thinking of the game he lost against Sanchez?

    Bart Starr is head and shoulders above Brady. 5 championships... highest QB rating in playoffs of retired players (if active players included he would be 2nd to Arod).

    Rodgers had the best regular season of all time, no doubt he deserves the top spot, but saying he shouldnt be in the top 5? Thats laughable.
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    Tom Brady hardly collapsed in SuperBowl XLVI. Wes Welker makes that catch and it is highly likely they win the game. However the flio side of that argument is if Mario Manningham had made the catch on the previous drive then NY Giants may have been able to put that game away. Claiming that Tom Brady collapsed in SuperBowl XLVI is a ridiculous statement. He brought NE Patriots back when he orchestrated perhaps 2 of the greatest drives in SuperBowl history when he broke rhe consecutive completion
    record. NE had taken control of thay game but Eli Manning and NY Giants offense slowed it down and controled the clock keeping Tom Brady on the bench. TOP was 38 minutes for NY and 22 for NE.

    Bart Starr may be the greatest playoff QB so far but to say that he is head and shoulders above Tom Brady makes absolutely no sense. Brady has done way more with less. Lets not forget that Starr won gis Championships always having the number one or number two defense in NFL.

    Okay if the poll were taken after the post season Rodger may have broken the top 5 but there is no way he even sniffs number one in that scenario.
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    If you think one game changes anyone's mind you are kidding yourself. You think Rodgers having the greatest regular season after having one of the best post seasons of all time isn't a reason to put him at #1?

    I'm not sure the players were polled before the superbowl. Not honestly sure when it took place this year.

    Tom Brady was the best in the league not that long ago and a possible top 5 QB of all time. But Rodgers is at the top right now. I have yet to see a legit source say otherwise. PFF graded him higher, 96% voted him the MVP, and the players agreed. You are better off arguing Brady's place in history at this point.
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    You know what is hilarious about that? The Packers "collapsed" against the same team that the Pats collapsed against in the SB. Just that the Packers loss came sooner in a much more competitive NFC playoffs.

    Please, the Pats started the playoffs with the Tebow led Broncos. That team was a lucky fluke all year. The Packers carved up that same overrated D in the regular season too.

    Oh and Brady in his own words "sucked" vs. the Ravens.
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    Wow. To claim that Packers loss in playoffs and Patriots loss in SB XLVI is the same is ridiculous. Packers were manhandled in the playoff loss and Aaron Rodgers was flustered and lost in that game. They were never in it. Patriots were in the game in SB XLVI till very end and Tom Brady brought them back and made it competittive when the game was on verg of being a blowout.

    NE played the Tim Tebow led Broncos in the playoffs because the week before that team beat the Pittsburgh Steelers and their number one ranked defense. Denver Broncos earned the right to playoffs and Tom Brady conducted a QB clinic against. Their aggressive defense. Tom Brady had a rough game against Ravens but he still played well enough to win.

    Tom Brady had an impressive post season run as did Drew Brees. Combined with their magnificent regilar seasons if the poll were taken at the conclusion of the post season as oppossed to conclusion of regular season it is obvious they would have both been ranked higher ln the list than Aaron Rodgers.
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    How is a playoff loss affecting how players feel Rodgers plays in 2012?

    That is what the voting was for..Who will be best the upcoming season
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    Tom Brady was outplayed by Joe Flacco in that lucky playoff win this January vs Baltimore. Everyone who watched that game knows that.
    Brady also came up blank in another Super Bowl against the Giants. He had his receivers let him down, as Rodgers did against the same team the Giants, but in colder climate unlike the Super Bowl.

    #1- Rodgers
    #2- Brady
    #3- Megatron
    #4- Matthews
    #5- Brees
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    That is my point. If the voting was conducted after the postseason instead of after the regular season the players would have taken tje postseason successes of Brady and Brees and the postseason collapse of Rodgers into account.
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    Tom Brady took his team to the big game and Aaron Rodgers collapsed and was ousted in the first playoff game. Tom Brady was close to beating the team in SuperBowl that totally dominated Aaron Rodgers and sent him packing from playoffs. Anyone that watched sees that. No way to downplay it.
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    The Ravens dropped that Super Bowl, Brady didn't take his team to the big game. That was a gift, as was his first Super Bowl thanks to the zebra's with the bogus Tuck Rule.

    Rodgers > Brady, and very few people dispute that these days.
    The debate is really Brees vs Brady.
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    That is a ridiculous statement.
    If you are going to talk about woulda could and shoulda then Packers SB XLV was a gift. If Jay Cutler does not totally choke in week sixteen and throw those picks in red zone them Packers do not even make playoffs so no SB victory.

    NE Patriots made the plays when they had to and they beat Ravens. Tom Brady led his team to SB. It is as simple as that.
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    Still waiting for your explanation on Brady's collapse against the jets and ravens in the playoffs....
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    That really has nothing to do with this debate but since you insist then why not. Brady losing to the defenses of Ravens and Jets is way different than Rodgers collapsing against NY Giants defense. Raven and Jets field superior defenses while NY Giants do not. Tom Brady also showed greater character by not making excuses for those losses the way Aaron Rodgers did in regard to the loss in playoffs against NY Giants.

    Aaron Rodgers collapse in the postseason this year would have weighed heavily on the players voting if thepoll had been conducted at end of playoffs instead of regular season.
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    Then your point is wrong.

    They are voting on who they think will be best in 2012 playoffs have nothing to do with how they SHOULD be voting
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    Of course it would have. If the voting were to have occurred after the postseason then the voters would have taken Aaron Rodgers playoff collapse into consideration.
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    Bewildering to me. First they voted on the regular season. That has been said over and over. Secondly, neither Brees or Brady succeeded in the playoffs either. :speechless:
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    There is no way Aaron Rodgers would have been voted to be the number one player for the uocoming season after the way he utteely failed his team in playoffs. No way the opinion would have remained the same among the playera that voted.
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    Of course they succeeded. Drew Brees was one great TD run by Alex Smith away from taking his team to the NFC Championship Game and Tom Brady took his team to the SB. They were both successful.
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    So Aaron Rodgers losing to the giants is different than Tom Brady losing how?

    Both lost to the champs. In fact Brady choked 2x in the SB.
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    Packer fans view success as winning the NFL/Super Bowl championship. Neither did so they failed.
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    Thats all well and good but it is being selfish to look at it that way. However if that is your point of veiw then you must be claiming that Aaron Rodgers was a failure this past year.

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