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Predictions for us from a variety of sources.
There are 5 from the writers at CBS Sportsline.

21. Green Bay Packers – C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
http://nflsfuture.com/2014/04/18/20...-three-weeks-draft-day/2/#HdYSw2pFV7ouYWrb.99

21. PACKERS--Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
http://msn.foxsports.com/ohio/story/nfl-mock-draft-version-7-0-change-at-the-top-for-browns-041714

21. Green Bay Packers -Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State: Where is the speed on that defense? Shazier has it.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/expert/pete-prisco

21. Packers - Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame: ......Nix is built similarly to holdover B.J. Raji, who was brought back on a one-year deal but plays with a more consistent motor.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/expert/rob-rang

21. Packers - Jimmie Ward, SS, Northern Illinois: Green Bay has a need at free safety and although it would be somewhat uncharacteristic for Ted Thompson to go safety in the first round, Ward gives the Packers an instant upgrade in the secondary.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/expert/dane-brugler

21. Packers - C.J. Mosley, ILB, Alabama: .... Mosley can line up at a number of spots in Dom Capers' package and be effective. Last week it was Ryan Shazier at this spot and it might very well be him again before May.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/expert/pat-kirwan

21. Packers - Jimmie Ward, SS, Northern Illinois: For as dangerous as the Packers are, they've got plenty of needs. (Not that Ted Thompson drafts for need; there are plenty of high-end talents.) One of those is shoring up the back end of the secondary. Ward's got the necessary skills to be a versatile piece in the Green Bay defensive backfield.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/expert/will-brinson


21. Packers - WR Odell Beckham Jr.
This TODD MCSHAY one would make me feel ill as we need immediate upgrades on defense more than offense.
http://forum.walterfootball.com/showthread.php?30441-McShay-Ver-4

Don Banks, CNNSI (the rare mock with Pryor still there)
21. Green Bay -- Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville

There are a lot of teams ahead of the Packers who could spoil this almost-perfect scenario for Green Bay, but Pryor would be a draft-night gift for a secondary that has lacked a consistent playmaker in the deep middle since Nick Collins' exited the lineup in early 2011 with a serious neck injury.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nf...draft-sammy-watkins-mike-evans/#ixzz2zLAOzvrb

NFL.com Daniel Jeremiah
This is the worst pick I have ever seen for us this year at #21. Yuck.
21. Packers - Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, WashingtonSeferian-Jenkins needs more polish, but his combination of size, catch radius and high-point skills will make him an immediate impact player in the red zone.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/mock-drafts/daniel-jeremiah/200850

21. Green Bay - CJ Moseley, LB, Alabama
Addressing the defensive line will be under consideration but Moseley is simply too good to pass up here. He would look good alongside AJ Hawk inside and brings an all around game and leadership the Pack would love to add to the defense.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2014/nflmockdraft.html
 
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Ward (in addition to his best fit being at SS) and Jenkins-Seferian would be a reach in the first round, as mentioned in another thread don't want the Packers to draft Beckham.
 

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Ward (in addition to his best fit being at SS) and Jenkins-Seferian would be a reach in the first round, as mentioned in another thread don't want the Packers to draft Beckham.

True. And I think one thing we'd all agree on is that TT pays attention to value more than anything in the 1st. Yeah, he's not gonna draft a quarterback or running back in the first because he's best available, but he has surprised us before. If we drafted beckham, I would lose hope and probably not watch anymore of the draft. Not to sound like everyone else, but we really have got to go defense, or MAYBE tight end.


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Here is my Latest Quick-Mock

#1- ILB CJ Mosley, Alabama -speed at ILB, 3-down player
#2- TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -great value at position of need for us
#3- S Ed Reynolds, Stanford -smart, fundamentally-sound safety
#3B- WR/RS Dri Archer, Kent State -pure speed, compared to McCluster/D-Jack/Hester
#4- WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw State -compare his measurables & production to Jordy
#5- S Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt -solid safety, we need more than we have there
#5B- OLB Prince Shembo, Notre Dame -I personally saw him with a hat trick
#6- OT Parker Graham, Oklahoma State -typical Thompson OL pick
#7- DT/NT Ricky Havili-Heimuli, Oregon -Big body depth

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Here is my Latest Quick-Mock

#1- ILB CJ Mosley, Alabama -speed at ILB, 3-down player
#2- TE Jace Amaro, Texas Tech -great value at position of need for us
#3- S Ed Reynolds, Stanford -smart, fundamentally-sound safety
#3B- WR/RS Dri Archer, Kent State -pure speed, compared to McCluster/D-Jack/Hester
#4- WR Jeff Janis, Saginaw State -compare his measurables & production to Jordy
#5- S Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt -solid safety, we need more than we have there
#5B- OLB Prince Shembo, Notre Dame -I personally saw him with a hat trick
#6- OT Parker Graham, Oklahoma State -typical Thompson OL pick
#7- DT/NT Ricky Havili-Heimuli, Oregon -Big body depth

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I don't think Amaro would be there for our second round selection. And I also don't think he's the type of tight end were looking for. I like the mock draft but I'd get a Nose Tackle in the fourth and a receiver in the 6th or 7th.
Really like the archer pick

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I don't think Amaro would be there for our second round selection. And I also don't think he's the type of tight end were looking for. I like the mock draft but I'd get a Nose Tackle in the fourth and a receiver in the 6th or 7th.
Really like the archer pick


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Don't sleep on that shuttle difference.
What do you mean Don't sleep on that shuttle difference?
The edge is to Janis in this measurables, shuttles, cones, etc.
What about production though?

Janis set multiple school records as a junior in 2012 with 106 catches for a Division-II-best 1,635 yards and 17 touchdowns, earning First Team All American and All-GLIAC honors. Janis again earned All-Conference honors in 2013 as a senior with 83 catches for 1,572 yards and 14 touchdowns, finishing his career second in GLIAC history with 4,305 career receiving yards.

STRENGTHS: Looks the part with a tall, muscular body type. Has worked hard to fill out his frame. Fleet of foot with very good build up speed to accelerate away from defenders. Controlled routes and shifts his momentum well with smooth footwork in/out of his breaks. Good hesitation to sell patterns. Good tracking skills and judgment on deep throws. Solid functional strength for the position, making it a chore for tacklers to finish him off. Strong competitor with an intrepid, fearless approach to the game. Very tough and holds onto the ball after jarring hits. Ambitious worker with strong intangibles and excellent character on and off the field. Try-hard player who gets the most out of his ability. Productive resume (37 career starts) with back-to-back 1,500+ receiving yard seasons the past two years. Holds the school record for single-season receiving yards (1,635), single-game receiving yards (300) and single-game catches (18).

STRENGTHS:
Exceptional measurables and leaping ability -- will test through the roof. Accelerates into routes quickly and can separate vertically and uncover underneath working short-to-intermediate zones. Terrific production -- carves up lesser competition and creates chunk plays. Good red-zone target. Exceptional work ethic. Outstanding football character. Very passionate about the game. Has a 37 1/2-inch vertical jump, posted a 3.98-second 20-yard shuttle (fourth-best among receivers) and a 6.64-second 3-cone time.

Sounds a lot like Jordy Nelson.

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/22/nfl-combine-jeff-janis-aj-mccarron/
Indeed. Janis ran a 4.36 40-yard dash at his junior pro day, and registered a 4.4 in his next try. He’s training at API in San Diego, and trying to get everything in shape as the draft draws near. Janis told me that he models himself after Green Bay’s Jordy Nelson, and I can see the comparison. Nelson is a surprisingly fast receiver with size, hands and toughness, and the Kansas State alum has become one of the more consistent and productive deep receivers in the NFL.

It’s not out of the question to think the same might someday be said of Janis.

If you could compare your play to one person in the NFL who would it be?

I like to compare myself to Jordy Nelson of the Packers.

http://rotoviz.com/index.php/2014/04/jeff-janis-an-nfl-draft-love-story/
YearNameCollegeHeight (in) Weight (lbs)40 YardVert Leap (in)Broad Jump (in)Shuttle3ConeAgility ScoreDR
2014Jeff JanisSaginaw Valley State 752194.4237.51233.986.6410.6245
2012Rueben RandleLSU752104.55311214.366.9911.3540.5
2012Michael FloydNotre Dame752204.436.51224.377.1111.4839
2010Marcus EasleyConnecticut752104.39341234.66.9411.5446
2009Kenny BrittRutgers752184.49371244.474.4734.5
2008Jordy NelsonKansas State752174.51311234.357.0311.3849.5
2014Jordan MatthewsVanderbilt 752124.4635.51204.186.9511.1348.5
2006Hank BaskettNew Mexico752244.5351194.226.811.0252.5
2013DaRick RogersTennessee Tech752174.5239.51324.066.7110.7743
2012Alshon JefferySouth Carolina752164.4836.51224.176.7110.8837
2013Aaron MelletteElon752174.5433.51234.417.1111.5255
Elephant In The Room
There is a player that I intentionally left off of that comp list, but still warrants discussion.

NameHeight (in) Weight (lbs)40 YardVert Leap (in)Broad Jump (in)Shuttle3ConeAgility ScoreDR
Jeff Janis752194.4237.51233.986.6410.6245
Julio Jones752204.3438.51354.256.6610.9133
Same height. Same weight. Jones is 1.8% faster, can jump 2.6% higher and 9.7% farther, while Janis has a significant advantage in lateral agility. Obviously Jones’ Dominator Rating was performed in the toughest conference to play college football in and Janis’ was done in DII against 5’8 cornerbacks, but we’ve seen an insane non-FBS DR be predictive in the past with the likes of Miles Austin, Pierre Garcon, and Marques Colston. The theory is pretty simple: if you’re NFL ready, you should be absolutely annihilating inferior competition. In terms of the comparison to Jones, I don’t think they are exactly a great 1 for 1 comp, partially because we don’t have RZ conversion numbers for Janis but this comp matters to illustrate a larger point: Janis is going to be a HUGE value in rookie drafts.


Draft Projection
Rounds 3-4
Bottom Line
A Division II standout with rare measurables and production, Janis must prove that he can translate his small-school success to the field against better competition.
 

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What do you mean Don't sleep on that shuttle difference?
The edge is to Janis in this measurables, shuttles, cones, etc.
What about production though?
Exactly, don't sleep on that difference because it's SIGNIFICANT. Makes me drool just looking at it

Production can be an Illusion. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Janis and really want to see him in G/G, but his game IS different from Jordy's partially because of his measurables. I simply feel Matthews' game is more comparable.
 

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