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MM is just about on the hot seat

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by armand34, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. armand34
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    This is McCarthy's 5th season so far...after 5 years he basically have built the "best" team in his Head Coaching Career...As Packer fans, I think we would all agree his play calling tends to just straight up suck...Ok, no problem, we can get over bad play calling, we got a nice defense...The Strength & Weakness of the Packers is the QB as it is undoubtedly obvious when Rodgers was knocked out...How does a GM & a HC as unbalanced as this one...Yea I know Ryan Grant was knocked out with injury...so why the HECK can every other team in the NFL can run?? I think we have seen the best that MM can offer, he is not a WINNER...he will not get us over the hump..he doesn't know how to get the BEST out of our team every sunday...doesn't know how to WIN a game in the 4th qtr against a 3-10 Lions team in a MUST WIN SITUATION, C'MON!!! I'm just straight up SICK to my stomach after that game and it was over 24 hours ago!

    What is it about those teams that Belichick coaches that are just always competitive, respond to adversity w/ a bazooka, those teams showup and just do it...Belichick is one of those coaches that know how to win, handle anything thrown at him (Brady out for the year in 2008), knows how to win, knows how to make a young defense play together, everything Belichick does just works, it's like he has the perfect formula to just be great, no matter who is wearing the Patriots uniforms...the complete polar opposite of our HC, We have way more talent then the Pats, but their HC will find a way to beat us b/c he is a GREAT HC, our HC will find a way to call a crappy game and not have our guys ready to go b/c he's a GARBAGE HC

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    I agree he needs to get his act together or leave/fired...but do we need to start over with a random coach? also the thing i just dont get is why we have 3 fullbacks? and only 2 qb's, even when we had the one of the worst offensive line last year...SO STUPID! not only that stupid play call the other day..
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    If everyone on our team was healthy, I'd agree with you.

    I actually think he should be in the running for Coach of the Year if a team with this many injuries and starters out manages to win 10 or 11 games.
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    People tend to forget this..
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    You ask any HC about injuries and they will all tell you it's no excuse...we have proven all season we can win despite the injuries so I don't want to hear that...what I do know is that we have 5 losses on the year so far...3 of those losses are to SUB.500-inadequate-bad-football teams.....'fins,'skin, & lions...who do you blame those games on? I blame MM b/c he doesn't get the team ready to beat teams they should beat..if belichick was coaching us this season we would easily be an 11 win team at this point instead of being on the outside looking in to make playoffs
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    First off, I think comparing him to Belichik is unfair. Belichick is a GREAT coach. He has great systems and does get the best out of his players. I rarely see his team make dumb mistakes.

    I think someone to compare him to is Andy Reid. Reid is a very good coach but his players do dumb things at times.

    I think MM is a pretty good coach but I don't think he's a great coach and don't believe he can get a team to a SB. I'm not saying he can't, I just have a hard time seeing it. I'm not sure why but there is something generic about him. I don't see him as a great motivator which is fine (Landry and Dungy weren't). I also don't see him as someone having a great system. I don't think he's a great play caller. But I think he's great at identifying talent which is probably his biggest strength. His record in close games is atrocious so he doesn't have a very disciplined team.

    I don't think he's horrible at any one thing, he's just not great except for ONE thing. Maybe if he stopped calling plays, he could concentrate on other things. Maybe that's his weakness: he can't let go.
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    good post, and I agree that he should relieve himself from playcalling duties...even Andy Reid can get a team ready to play...his record after a bye week is UNDEFEATED...MM is really not the guy...and getting rid of him doesn't mean starting over...look at the JETS & Chargers, they changed HC's and both HC's made their team better immediately
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    yeah any HC will say injuries are part of the game but when you have 13 of them thats a lot


    11 player son each side of the ball

    We lost the equivalent to all starters on defense (or offense) AND two of their back ups

    We have back ups playing for their back ups..

    We have guys signed off the street to make up for the lose of THREE players in one spot

    You want to say injuries are not an issue, thats fine

    But do not try to sell me any of what your smoking
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    I cant imagine we would have this thread if we would have snuck out a win in Detroit, so its seems like a reaction thread. 10 win team (hopefully?) with the most injuries in the league seems like MM did alot this year. Im not a huge fan, but I think he has gotten better. I really like the majority of the coaching staff under him as well.
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    I haven't been a huge fan of MM, especially as of late, but having this many injuries and still being in a position to be a potential playoff team is pretty good. Simply put, not many teams can even be in the hunt with the amount of injuires we've had. Look at the colts, they've had about the same amount of injuries in key positions just like us, and they're probably a better team than us fully healthy, and look at their record, their worse than us, so all things considered this teams record is pretty remarkable if you consider the injuries.

    of course that being said, our record should be 9-4 after that game, and i put most of the blame on MM.
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    To compare MM to Belichick is a bit unfair. On the other hand, how many Belichick's are there to be had? Who do you hire instead of McCarthy?
    Personally, I'm pretty impressed with how well this team has handled all the injuries. The argument that it's part of the game isn't a valid premise. It certainly is part of the game, because the enormous amount the Packers have had would set any team back, especially at those key positions.
    Every team says is over and over throughout the season "As long as we can stay healthy" right?
    I don't know which plays you thought were bad but I thought he called a decent game. If the last pass to Jennings is on target, it's brilliant play calling. Detroit certainly didn't' see it coming.
    In fact, when talking heads talk about the Packers before this week, it's one thing they always comment on, what a great job the coaches have done with so many injuries. He's no Belichick but he's no Ray Rhodes either.
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    Careful there, bud.
    Your comparing an honest coach to one who has or still cheats.
    With the Patsies winning the way they do, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he is still BellaCheat.
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    I haven't been here after every game, but whenever I am here's what I see or notice.

    Packers lose to worse teams or games they should have won: I hate MM! Fire MM! Throw the bum out! Etc. etc.

    When the Packers win, especially an exciting game or one that matters such as against the Viqueens there is no (As far as I know) posts such as: We love MM! MM is a genius! So glad to have MM as our coach!

    There should be some balance of positive with the negative.
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    I thought we'd be looking at 6-10 when all the injuries started coming down.

    Regardless of the Detroit game (shows what a good D-line does for a D). MM has done a pretty good job overall. Yeah, he's not perfect, but he had the team in the NFC Championship game in 07. Yeah, you can say, that was then, this is now. But the Packers were being considered a legitimate SB contending team this year. Minus a couple of key injuries, we could have been a solid SB team this year. Yeah, I know, coulda, shoulda, woulda.

    I don't think we get rid of MM. Like I said he's not perfect, but there are a heck of a lot of worse coaches out there.
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    People in Philly are still to this day angry over that whole cheating scandal. It was discovered after they beat the Eagles in the SB and people here were left wondering what might of been. I hope stopped cheating, they have all the talent in the world on all levels of that team, they of all people don't need to cheat.
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    I have to agree with you. After the injuries started to multiply quicker than rabbits. I was hoping for an 8-8 0r 9-7 season at best....and then things get worse.

    Name a coach you want if MM is so bad...hell, he held that team together. You want to go back to Forrest Greg, or even worse, Ray Rhodes? No matter what team you follow, you can always second guess the coach. Heck, even good coaches second guess themselves.

    I keep telling you I live in Green Bay, my friends included the editor of the Green Bay Press-Gazette and a couple of reporters. Another friend I made was host of a sports talk program. I was told things off-the -record. How could a coach work sixty hours a week game planning when he and his wife spent 20 hours a week at the casino. How could our highest ranking coordinator spend 60 hours a week game planning when he spent 20 hours a week drinking in a bar? That I can vouch for because I was right there watching him.

    Be careful of what you wish for.
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    I've always believed the Packers could win it all with MM, but it would be in spite of him. He has A LOT of short comings. He is great with QBs and he did a lot to help Rodgers. But I think Rodgers is there. He is the man. I'd prefer to go in another direction. But we can't lose Capers.
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    Can we go back to Pretending that Ray Rhodes was never a GB Packers head coach! That name give me a headache every time I hear it. Ugh......
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    Say that again.
    What?
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    There have been a number of reasonable posts talking about how MM did a great job with the team despite all the injuries.

    I agree though, the tone changes like Buffalos weather around here.
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    What do you want me to say again? What I posted was the truth.
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    I hope or assume that these are past and not any current coaches your referring to?
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    He wants the coaches named lol
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    From a year in the 1990's.
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    Uh... no. Sorry. Another knee-jerk. Teams that start over with a new coach every 4 or 5 years don't generally go anywhere.

    If you've got such a man crush on BeliCHEAT, why are you here?

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