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Allouez - That is one of the big reasons I was against Moss coming to us a couple years ago. That, and because he "plays when he wants to play".

BTW, of all the pics of ARodge for your avitar, you had to pick the one with the pornstash... classic. :band:

I never wanted Randy Moss either. Always hated him. Rodgers pornstash is sooooo money.
 

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Can't understand why 'Queens fans welcomed Favre with open arms.


They welcomed him because they knew it would annoy packer fans. Thats the difference between packer fans and Vik fans.

Their hatred for us is just about bitterness


we hate them because they are ********
they hate us because we are everything they wish they were:viksux:
 

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Sure, why not keep the revolving door going? His wild inconsistency will have me hoping it doesn't hit him on the way out before next January.
 

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I'd MUCH rather see them sign old players over and over and over and over and over again than see them draft their Aaron Rodgers and have that position solved for the next 10 years.

That situation would scare the hell out of me.
 

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Some mock Drafts have Tebow falling to the Vikings. I don't think so, but then Moss was not suppose to fall and either was Harvin. Not that I think he will be a good qb in the NFL, but then who knows.
 

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Some mock Drafts have Tebow falling to the Vikings. I don't think so, but then Moss was not suppose to fall and either was Harvin. Not that I think he will be a good qb in the NFL, but then who knows.
I think i'd be happier if the Vikings went with Tebow than I would be with anything the Packers could possibly do in the draft.

The only reason to take Tebow, if you're Minnesota, is if Brett is coming back and you know you have a year to shorten his delivery and work on his accuracy.
 

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Some mock Drafts have Tebow falling to the Vikings. I don't think so, but then Moss was not suppose to fall and either was Harvin. Not that I think he will be a good qb in the NFL, but then who knows.
I'm one of those guys who is having a hard time seeing where Tebow fits in in the NFL. Moss and Harvin fell because of character issues. Tebow wouldn't be falling per say, people have no idea how to grade him. He's not a pure pocket passer he's an athlete who happened to play QB at a school loaded with talent. He was a great college player at a great college program - and it is really hard to tell how he works out in the NFL. I think it's 50-50 that he plays a position other than QB. Guys like Vince Young have made it as athletes who weren't accurate pocket passers, so I guess you never know. To me he's a novelty pick for a team that has the luxury of doing that. I wouldn't want to take him expecting him to be my QB of the future unless I was really a gambler.
 

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Some mock Drafts have Tebow falling to the Vikings. I don't think so, but then Moss was not suppose to fall and either was Harvin. Not that I think he will be a good qb in the NFL, but then who knows.
It's possible. Every mock I've seen has had Tebow going in the 2nd round. I think a lot of teams have line issues to address first and foremost and this draft seems to be ripe for the picking. I don't know that I'd use a 1st rounder on Tebow if other top class QBs are still left.
 

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Tebow will make an awesome NFL QB. But in 3 years from now.

He doesn't have good mechanics, and doesn't know any NFL schemes or routes. All coachable.

What he do have is all the intangibles, every single one of them, and the arm strenght to do it.

He shouldn't step onto the field until he learns those things, as it'll be embarassing. But it's no coincidence he has been a winner since HS.
 

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Tebow will make an awesome NFL QB. But in 3 years from now.

He doesn't have good mechanics, and doesn't know any NFL schemes or routes. All coachable.

What he do have is all the intangibles, every single one of them, and the arm strenght to do it.

He shouldn't step onto the field until he learns those things, as it'll be embarassing. But it's no coincidence he has been a winner since HS.

We'll see. I'm not as convinced as you are but it sure could happen.
 

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We'll see. I'm not as convinced as you are but it sure could happen.
There's no question he's an inteligent QB. He has very good awareness as a QB. He has the arm strenght. He's a team player, and a proven leader. He has the will to win.

He doesn't KNOW how to take a snap, and doesn't KNOW NFL routes. He has, however, studied defenses, and has a good grasp of them.

But that's coachable, as I said. And he's more than willing to learn them. It'll take time, but eventually he'll learn them.

His only real problem, for a team that's willing to wait for him to develop, is his accuracy. But even if he doesn't develop into a very accurate QB, with what he brings to the table in the running game, with his awareness and his arm strenght, I think he can still be one of the top QBs. He'll never be a conventional QB, but Michael Vick was once considered one of the best QBs in the league. Tebow is 10x better than Vick...
 

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A lot of ppl are concerned with the fact that Tebow can't take a snap under center. But I say why should he? The NFL is developing into a passing league and there are teams who hardly use the pro formation. Playing in shotgun all the time is not such a bad thing just ask Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
 

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In the NFL you need a pure passer to win on a consistent basis. Players like Vick and Randal Cunningham can show signs of dominance and win a few games, but it comes down to the fact you have to pass the ball and have a quick release.

For Tebow and all QBs that enter the league it comes down to this, is his hand eye coordination able to keep up with the NFL speed? This comes down to how fast he can release the ball and how fast his mind can process what happening to release the ball.

Thats why every year we see examples of QBs that have all the natural gifts, yet fail. Tom Brady on the other hand will not wow you as a physical specimen, but plays year in and out at high level. Tom Brady's real gift is his hand eye coordination, he maximizes his athletic gifts with his ability to see and react quicker than most QBs.

I think Payton Manning knows he does not have the natural ability to read and react as fast as some of the better QBs in the league, but he makes up for this in his film study. I think a lot of times Manning knows what he is going to do at the snap of the ball where as Brady and BF can process things in a second or two. Both have been sucessful.

Tebow is no different from any other QB entering the league, he just has proven to be a runner. He has the same challenges as all the other QBs, can his mind process the game quick enough?
 

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