tromadz said:no silly balls, people on this forum know more than the paid professionals.
your positiveness just oozes from you, trommy!! :wink:
tromadz said:no silly balls, people on this forum know more than the paid professionals.
How come Trom gets to get his Nips Tweaked. Maybe I'll have to start sassing you :wink:4packgirl said:roflmao!!! i just felt the need to tweak your nips for some reason tonite.
let's see how the first game goes before we make any decisions on k-rob. that's what i'd do but, then again...i'm no 'paid professional'!!!
Zero2Cool said:Bottom line. As I outlined in my lengthy post earlier. It could be possible to retain him. He could play atleast four games for us as a returner and thats all we may need if Blackmon comes back healthy an capable.
Lets stop trying to make more out of this than there really is.
Terry I take absolutely NO offense to your post. As I said this is a loss that happened long ago and I do not take such a moralistic stance to anyone who is suffering from chemical dependency. I believe CD can destroy the lives of many including: the addict, the addicted persons family, innocent victims (like my nephew and the thousands of persons who are killed each year by drunk drivers). I never intended it to imply that discussion should come to "a thudding halt" because of what happened to my nephew. I have great concern for Koren's life too.
I also believe that Chemical Dependency is an illness that people can recover from and lead very productive and meaningful lives -- I myself have employed plenty of recovering persons and on occassion some that were actively acting out their addictions in destructive ways -- though I certainly did not know that at the time of hire -- and supported them and welcomed them back to work when they got their addictions under contol. I am not a teatoddler (I am not sure if that is even the right word) myself and do not consider alcohol consumption to be a bad thing for everyone -- only those who abuse it. I also think our drug laws are insane and ineffective. So having said this, let me return to point.
Yes it is a crime to show up in court having alcohol on one's breath if they have entered a plea bargin that includes "no use of alcohol" and more importantly it demonstrates a reckless disregard for the law and for public safety -- as Koren drove himself to court that day.
It is on this plea bargin that he was showing up for that he was to do 1 day in jail and have the other 364 days hanging over his head as time to be served if he violated any of the conditions of his probation -- which he did by coming to court and to jail having used alcohol.
As a pampered athlete once again in a high publicity case, the Washington Judge decided to give this man a break even after stating that he (Robinson) had long ago run out of 2nd chances, but the Judge believed his sincerity this time and would stick his neck out for him once again (This is what high priced attorneys can buy you in America). This is the same Judge he must go in front of on his revocation hearing -- which was my original point and he is likely to be doing jail time very soon. Koren did not make it through his probation meeting the conditions agreed to in his plea bargin -- not even close. His now famous incident in MN (which resulted in MN being the 2nd team to give up on him despite a huge financial investment) was not his first -- it was the 2nd that week alone and the charges he faces for that infamous night are felony offenses that include fleeing from police, driving without a drivers license and after revocation, reckless endangerment by engaging in a police chase in excess of 105 MPH (including through a small town where it is simple luck that someone was not killed) and of course another DUI and other charges are pending.
You have to know (by the simple law of averages) that Koren Robinson was not arrested nor convicted everytime he violated the law -- not even close. In fact stories of police driving him home and charges being dropped were legendary in his hometown, his college career and in Seattle because of his immense talent as a football player.
Sadly each of those breaks contributed to enabling this man's life to continue to spin out of control.
Yet here we are, without regard for this young man's life, once again saying let's help him use every technical venue possible to avoid facing his problem and the consequenses of his behavior.
Terry I do not believe that Koren Robinson should be considered a pariah for the remainder of his natural life. Rather I believe exactly the opposite -- he is a young man whose irresponsible and destructive behavior screams for help and accountablity. I would be extemely disappointed if out of selfishness and temporary gain that the Packers would act to prematurely help him once again ignore the warning signs and continue down his road to self (and other) destruction.
I hope that Koren gets help and leads a productive life after getting his life together -- I just don't believe it will come weeks after once again behaving in ways that could have very easily cost him his life, or the lives of any of the many officers envolved in the chase, or of any of the innocent drivers on the way home to their families that evening or perhaps a child walking his pet in that small town on that potentially fateful evening.
Koren need to concentrate on his recovery, not meeting the impatient needs of football fans IMO, and like you (Terry) I apologize in advance if my strong opinions offend any of you.
And finally, as I stated early in this thread, the Packers have far too many needs to be investing the time, money and public goodwill in a player who is likely to be sitting in a County Jail in Washington within a few short weeks.
I commend Ted Thompson for talking to the young man and would certainly be open to possibly signing him for next or another future season if he seems to be getting this long time problem under control and after he has faced the consequenses of his behavior.
Cheesey, you live in Grafton? I'm from near there too.cheesey said:Zero said "If everyone robbed the closest bank to their home that doesnt mean robbing a bank is right or excusable. It means ppl collectively are weak, lazy and pathetic."
(There goes my plan to knock over the Grafton State Bank!!!) :lol:
Hammer said:Cheesey, you live in Grafton? I'm from near there too.cheesey said:Zero said "If everyone robbed the closest bank to their home that doesnt mean robbing a bank is right or excusable. It means ppl collectively are weak, lazy and pathetic."
(There goes my plan to knock over the Grafton State Bank!!!) :lol:
Hammer
PackwillBEback said:NFL just spended Robinson for the year....j/k...but really there is a great chance that can happen...anyways im suprised he signed with gb after yesterday, but maybe that is the only option he had left.