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I hate TT, Surprised?

Discussion in 'Smack Area' started by pyledriver80, Mar 28, 2007.

  1. pyledriver80 Cheesehead

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    Ref you are in a tough spot, one I am all to familiar with. I don't mind people disageeing and I respect alot of the people that love what TT is doing, though I think they may need to lay off the booze. What I don't like is the crap above. First off someone stating "stop posting" because they disagree with you is hogwash. The thread was obviously about a subject Zero was tired of so........he decided to open it, read it, and then respond.

    Secondly be prepared to be accused of turning every thread into a "I hate TT" thing, even though most times it will be another member who is so trigger happy to defend him that will initiate it. Everything you say, whether it has any mention of TT or not will be instantly taken as a slap at TT and responded to in a sarcastic manner. If you respond to that, you are the bad guy who "takes every thread off topic".

    Anyways, I am going to try to keep things here so everyone else can walk around with thier "We Love TT Buttons" and continue thier nightly candlelight vigils to the O'Mighty Ted Thompson.
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    Heh. I don't hate TT. I think it's too early to judge (the jury is still out). Yet, I've been accused of being a TT-hater by someone who seems to get banned from the site once every few months.

    I'm a die-hard Packer fan. I've lived through the horrible days of the 70s and 80s when all I had to look to were stats. Then suddenly a man named Brett Favre came along and we started doing something we never seemed to be able to do, win.

    I think TT would be wonderful if there wasn't a sense of urgency. He will build a contenting team within three years. However, Brett Favre may not have three years. If I were running the show, I'd do everything in my power to build a winning team this year. I think it's the least we can do for the man who brought success back to Green Bay.

    If TT's big surprise is landing Randy Moss and Turner, I will be TT's biggest fan. If Brett Favre retires without one more playoff win, I will despise TT.

    Okay TT. I'll give you until Brett Favre retires.

    To my friends in the Packerforum, let's be patient. The draft hasn't even begun yet. There's still plenty of time to make trades.

    EDIT - Wanted to add, Turner might not be available. I might be setting my goals too unrealistically. How about just Moss and drafting Lynch? I'd be very, very happy with that. I watched Lynch play at Berkeley and liked what I saw. I think he could be a good fit to go 50-50 with Morency the first year, then be primary in '08. Lynch is a good receiver, something we could use in a RB.

    So...if TT trades for Moss then drafts Lynch, I will be a HUGE TT fan. I will not blame TT if Moss doesn't work out, because I believe Moss still has a lot to prove, and a lot of gas in his tank.
  3. refpacker Cheesehead

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    LOL too funny...
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    I agree with you....Brett deserves more to work with...I want Moss more than I want a RB, however, there is still no excuse for not signing more than just Moss.....Oportunities were there wether they were overpaid or not we had the money to make some big deals and we didnt.

    Also Im not puttin all my hope into this years draft class, other than Peterson and CJ, im not impressed....U say u want brett to have another playoff shot. So do I, but im not sure the draft will get us to that spot.. It could take 3-4 years for players to develope. Brett doent have that kind of time... We needed to get at least 2 playmakers to help out. Moss along with a RB.

    I am still pull for Priest Holmes!
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    TT is content with mediocrity. your an *** if you can look someone in the face and say that without cracking up at yourself.
    that is the most ridiculous thing ive ever read. you really gain credibility with talk like that.
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    read my sig....."It can't determine policy. It can't determine the direction of our team," Thompson said of fan opinion. "I want the fans to think we're working very hard and doing the best we can to help the Green Bay Packers, and I desperately want that image to be portrayed. But I can't react and do things for the sake of the populace. It has to be a thought-out decision that makes sense for the Packers."

    if you want your GM to do anything other than this statement right here, your not a packer fan... your a brett favre fan and youll be gone when he leaves. so im not worried about you.

    you dont just go out and sign guys so the 18 people out there like pyle and ref that lack the basic intelligence to not say things as soon as they pop up in their minds can sleep at night.

    the basic underlying theme this offseason was people overpaying for really no reason. you think San fran is gonna win the superbowl next year because theyve spent a lot of money.. hell no, they are just as far out as we are.

    bottom line is... if theres a guy out there that will help us to be a better team, the money will be spent. if hes just a patch or a name we shouldnt spend the money.
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    Yep because he has done so much to improve this team, like sign Frank Walker and ummmmm, uhhhhhhhh, hmmmmm, oh wait thats it.
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    This is what gets me...We all know the money was there, we all know players were there...But do we know why those players were not brought in, or signed? And please dont say cuz he is cheap..


    I think some people look at it as black and white, player A wants X amount of $ and the Packers have that, so why didnt they sign him..Other factors go into signing these guys and I think it gets lost in the shuffle.

    What were the talks between Ted and Mike, or other coaches about players?

    What players did the entire staff feel could have helped the team?

    Did Mike or other coaches say we want player X and Ted said no, or did Ted push to get a player and the staff said no?

    You and others have said for last 3 years ( maybe not on this forum but all around) to give Brett the chance to go out on top...Didn't Sherman try that?
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    What else is he to say?

    Here we go with the "you are not a Packer fan" regurgitated garbage. Not even worth a response

    Yep we are stupid. So are the other 39% of people that were unhappy with the direction of the Packers, compared to the 22% that were. 22% is less than 39% so it looks like you are the minority. I hope you don't lack the "basic intelligence" to figure that out.

    who said we have to overpay? Yawn............

    Yep, I agree, to bad Ted does not
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    sherman tried that and it failed miserably... and ultimately forced Teds hand with walker and other contracts he had to let go....

    which is part of the reason people dont like TT. hes doing the job the way your supposed to, and we will be a better team because of it.


    the people that got signed elsewhere, its not a question of how much money we have to pay them. what if signing a guy that barely upgrades your team like a griffith is gonna piss off other players with lesser contracts and we end up losing them in a Walker type situation... or they develop attitudes and kill any team chemistry weve been building.

    theres SOOOOO freakin much more that goes on in a GM's world that you guys apparently dont think about it. you dont work on an Xbox just buying up whoever has the highest media rating. things have to be done right or they blow up in your face... see sherman circa 2005. see 49ers GM in say 2-3 years.
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    Yep, and we won the division and made the playoffs year after year. I know, we didn't make it to the SB so he sucks

    Yet, when you don't make the playoffs you are building Rome. Thats the most hypocritical, absurd statement ever.
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    Wow, I am glad you know so much about a GM's world. Keep making excuses, it makes me laugh. See Sherman - 10-6 Division titles and playoffs......now see Ted 4-12, 8-8 and beating 1 winning team in 06. Yep, see Sherman and see Thompson. You may get it afterall
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    Okay this is another difference that I see..

    sherman, look at his roster in 2000 for every Butler, Santana, Earl Dotson, Vonnie, and the like ( not just limitied to these players tho) who did he get to replace them?

    I was always on Sherman's band wagon and when he was fired I was ticked..But reading more into it, and looking back on things, I realized something.

    Look at the records of Minny, Chicago and Detroit in those years

    2001-2004 87-126 record


    Gb record vs the division 20-6 during those years
    Overall record 44-20

    24-14 outside of the division..

    My feeling is that GB lucked out playing in one of the worse division during those years..They had to play just average or slightly above average and they could win the division ...Which is what they did..
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    your ridiculous.... see sherman riding brett favre into decline and eventually 4-12. ruining a team while winning divisions in a terrible division. theres no joy in being the smartest retard.

    see Thompson 4-12 to 8-8 in one season. in a division that sports superbowl contenders.

    not everything is black and white son. everything has qualifiers. while sherman might have a better record, he was in a terrible conference where 6 wins of the year were pretty much guarenteed. and so was a loss in the playoffs.

    and another qualifiers, Thompson has to deal with shermans inefficiencies as a GM.

    Thompson > Sherman and every sane person that follows the packers understands that.
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    No Joke........Lets goahead and sign Jeff George while we r at it Ted.....I cant wait to hear what brett has to say about ted when he gives his reason for retireing.
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    who initiated it?
    Not tryin to be a smart !@#, but even if TT looked into it, thats all he would be doing was looking....ALA the rest of the availabe backs this year...

    Who initiated it?

    Lets face TT isnt going to throw BIG BUCKS out there even if it was for Ladanian Tomlinson...

    Who initiated it?

    Like it or not a shift is begginning and I am proud to have been one of the first to jump off TT's sinking ship.

    Who?
    We may have 32 7th round picks with Ted in control.

    See a trend?
    I think he is incompetent and doesnt spend his time wisely. Why the hell is he evaluating Charles Johnson. We have more pressing needs than taking a look at a receiver that we have NO SHOT Of GETTING EVER!!!!!!!
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    Only reason they were 8-8 last year is because everyone in the NFC was bad last year.....Oh boy we were the best of the Turds, what an accomplishment......If we would have made the playoffs last year we would have been killed unless Favre had another heroic game...Face it, its the truth.
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    Last year Brett as all set to retire...but something clicked and he decided to come back..Brett was questioning what the team was going to provide him..

    Ted did something to show Brett it was worth coming back, what ever it was I think Brett felt he shouldn't retire..
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    Thanks ref, thats basically the same reasons I gave for the success under Sherman, and for the most part how did their playoff games end with Sherman??

    Atlanta, Minnesota, St Louis??
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    LOL im so pleased he admires our threads, anyone to lookup every post pyle and I have ever made seriously must admire our work....Congrats and Im open to autographs when ever.....
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    It seems more to me like brett was crying because he didnt want to retire, he came back because he still has love for the game....The reason he is considerin it so much is b/c he knows TT wont give him any help and why should brett go out there and embarass himself with the lack of talent around him....He definately wants to still play..
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    Ref it isnt that hard to figure out on a lot of posts that are just random talking about players or situations, someone has to pipe in with a comment about Ted being cheap..

    So when Pyle mentioned "most times it will be another member who is so trigger happy to defend him that will initiate it."

    I wanted to see for myself, cuz I honestly was starting to believe Pyle.

    I am positive there are threads that are the way he says they are..

    So one of you can prove that to us...
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    LOL im with u on that......Why do TT supporters think that TT bashers love Sherman.......No TT basher feels this way......Sherman was a Loser we all know that, everytime a TT supporter tries to justify TT they bring up Ron Wolf and Sherman..........

    Sherman sucked as does TT!
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    no refpacker thats not admiration jackass what that is called is... fact.

    he went back and showed you exactly what pyle said he didnt do. your proven wrong time and time again... no one admires your work, your gonna whine no matter what happens because thats just what kind of fan you and pyle are. in the words of Goldmember "fine, then there is no pleasing you"
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    Little hint..In 2005 offseason..Before Ted cut or let go, or didnt re-sign players, Brett was set to retire..He was done..didnt want to do it anymore..

    Someone that deals with Brett every single day, has a house in Wi, and when Brett said he was done, this guy put his house for sale, and was set to move on with his life..Just like Brett was doing..

    But like I said, something clicked inside Brett, and he wanted to give it a chance..

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