I hate TT, Surprised?

I will debate TT here. I don't want to get accused of some bogus "offense" due to other people arguing with me. Try to keep your I Hate/Love TT stuff here and I will try to do the same

So bring it boys......joking.....kind of

You should get a license plate that says I H8 TT, or just the traditional H8H8H8.

Great thought! I like the first idea. I am not a general "Hater" I just hate people who try to run a football team on the cheap with a future HOF QB in his last years behind center.

I think that's my biggest problem with TT. You only get so many HOF QBs, and there should be a little more urgency to building a winner when you have one.
I would gladly cut him some slack if he made another run with Brett and then a few years of mediocrity or putridity followed. TT's method may eventually pay off, but its not a good fit for the roster he inherited.

That's one, if not THEE, biggest problems I have with Ted. His approach make little sense.

Why not make the push with Brett at QB. The roster TT took over wasn't THAT far away. Keep Wahle, work it out with Javon, etc.

Whatever the case he chose to go his route of gaining cap space and now he won't even upgrade the team with it. I don't care if he signs Moss or not. Randy Moss won't fill the many holes on this team and is probably more of a luxury.

So Brett plays out his career with an average 7-9, 8-8 team. Then what?
If TT's building some kind of dynasty, which is laughable, who's going to be our QB? Aaron Rodgers? TT won't patch all the holes at once, but would rather patch one while another one leaks. Why? Because Ted's content with mediocrity

What I'm saying is that I would have waited to full blown reload until after Brett left, which I think is reasonable since as stated, how many chances do you get to have a QB of Brett's caliber.

Once Brett leaves, there is a decent chance that we're going to have a rough time anyways. I'm pretty sure if TT put together a solid roster to take another shot with Brett, we would cut him some slack once Brett left.

Thank you for adding to the hatefest longtime

Please tell me how signing Justin Griffith, Ken Hamlin, and perhaps a Jamaal Lewis is going to "screw the future"?

I think that TT is past the 'rescue the cap' stage now. I completely agreed with his methods in that area. Thought he did great, and I was happy with it.

I just read an article on Packers.com about TT not wanting to take opportunities from his younger guys by signing people.

OK. I can buy into that rationale. But where it starts to get fuzzy for me is just that he evidently thinks that guys like Bubba, Manuel, and Miree can excel as starters. i saw all of those guys (Except Miree, he seems decent) just kill us last year. Not just a few games, but all season long.

I'm willing to trust thier scouting over mine, but not for longer than one more season.

The first year was inevitable, we had no cap room whatsoever.

My problem is what he did after that. He spent the next year and started a ground up approach with an unproven staff, and by pretty much gutting the roster. I would have preferred a more seasoned coaching staff and a more aggresive and time efficient approach of remaking the roster.

I also think he dropped the ball big time on Javon. Yes, Javon is a whiny bitch, but it should never have gotten to that point. TT should have done a better job of keeping it internal, and he should have gotten a pay raise after his injury, but not a long-term contract.

Ok we freed up cap space, at the expense of a 4-12 and 8-8 season. Now we have the money, tell me how signing guys like this are "risking the future"

Did we sign Moss?
Did we extend Barnett? Williams?

Also which is a bigger need on this team right now
A. RB
B. S
C. WR
D. TE

Ding Ding Ding. Add to that he is sitting on tons of money this year with little left in the FA market

Really? Cmon, a defective product in no way relates to the Packers. If I return a product to the store, I am the SOLE OWNER, returning it to someone who by law has to remedy it. With the packers, there are many owners, so writing to Bob does relatively nothing, and quite frankly he has no obligation to give a rats *** what I think.

I post on this forum as a distraction from school, not because I believe it actually makes a difference.

Lol, is this what we are left with? Maybe I will set up a meeting tommorrow with him.

This is lame man.

His approach makes little sense??? You know this how and why. You bear no responsibility in the organization. You bear no finacial benefit.
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One person whose name you throw around (Brett Favre) is back for another season. Be honest if Brett thought there was NO SHOT at being competitive he would not be back.

You insist that you know how the organization should be run by throwing out the woulda coulda's everywhere. bottom line is you cannot run a MAJOR NFL FRANCHISE in the REAL world with Madden logic.

You are not a hater but you are a fan who cannot disconnect emotion from rational thought. You get all worked up over the apparent lack of movement from the front office. You have no more insight than anyone else into the inner workings therein. So do yourself a big favor and take a pill have a beer and enjoy life. Why fret over something you cannot control
(Except in MADDEN ofcourse)

Obviously you don't either.

So when did Moss Sign?
When did they extend Barnett, Williams?

how can you say that Ted is content with mediocrity. self-preservation is THE most basic instinct we have, and he's ******* shrewd. shrewd enough to know that if you don't win, your *** is canned. saying over and over that ted is content with mediocrity is the weakest argument imaginable. it's ridiculous.

EDIT: grammar.

Why even come here and state something so silly? I don't know how many times I can state this.

I as a fan have the right to state that I disagree with Ted's approach, just as you have the right to state you agree with him. It's the foundation of sports messageboards. Have you ever criticized the president?

So this forum is to just agree with everything Ted does because he is in charge? How boring is that.

Does Matt Millen know what he's doing to? Is it unfair to criticize him?

It's never a good idea to mix pills & beer, man.

Look, the fact is the Packers FO has signed one guy from outside GB, resigned some guys for depth, and let our starting RB and possible starting TE walk. The guys who were behind those two are not exactly brilliant prospects. Sure, the draft hasn't happened yet, but we're picking 16th, nothing like the the surefire postion of 5 last year.

Truth is, TT hasn't done much, there's plenty of cap space, Moss and Turner both still play in California, and Barnett is still in the last year of his contract.