GM Risk Signals Sad Times - Chris Havel

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By Chris Havel

The Green Bay Packers' decision to sign Koren Robinson has wrought criticism, consternation, compassion, contempt and congratulations.


The media and fan reaction to the Packers' signing Tuesday ran the gamut of emotion. If only the Packers played with such conviction.


Frankly, I am surprised by the buzz.


The Packers' treatment of a player's unlawful off-the-field behavior is similar to that of other NFL teams. The Packers' willingness to deal with indiscretions is directly proportional to the player's ability to help them win games.


That hasn't changed, and it never will.


Judging by Robinson's sad and sordid past, Packers General Manager Ted Thompson must be convinced that the well-traveled receiver-return specialist could make a significant and immediate impact.


There is no other way to explain the typically conservative Thompson's uncharacteristic willingness to stake his reputation — as well as the franchise's — on such a talented but troubled player.


Robinson, 26, has been arrested twice for drunken driving. He allegedly showed up drunk to serve a one-day jail sentence. On Aug. 15, he led police on a 13-mile chase to the Minnesota Vikings' training camp facility in Mankato, Minn., during which police said he was driving 104 mph in a 55-mph zone. He registered a blood-alcohol content of 0.11 after taking a field sobriety test.


Nevertheless, Robinson is working for his third NFL team while awaiting word on his third alleged violation of the NFL's substance-abuse policy.


Robinson gives new meaning to the term triple threat. His lengthy history of alcohol-related problems suggests he may be a very real danger to the welfare of himself, his team and his community.


Thompson, who selected Robinson with the ninth pick in the 2001 draft, has intimate knowledge of him from their time together in Seattle.


"This is a good kid," Thompson told reporters. "I'm not making excuses; he's made some mistakes. But this is a good kid."


Made some mistakes?


Forgetting to put the milk in the refrigerator is a mistake. Locking the keys in the car is a mistake. Putting too much fertilizer on the lawn is a mistake.


Repeatedly getting behind the wheel of an automobile while intoxicated, especially after multiple offenses, goes beyond a mistake.


Does Robinson deserve yet another chance? Sure. It is quite possible that he is a good kid with a bad addiction, and I wish him the best in his attempt to overcome it.


What gives me pause is Thompson's decision to sign him — and to accept the risk that comes with him — when there is a strong likelihood he may serve a one-year suspension. Furthermore, the Packers appear to be more than a receiver and kick-return specialist away from being formidable.


If the move works, Thompson will be applauded. If it fails, he will be vilified. Sadly, the odds aren't in the general manager's favor.


The Packers called a news conference to announce Robinson's signing. They sent out a one-sentence memo to announce fullback Vonta Leach's release. Leach, who mentors children and sponsors a youth baseball team in the offseason, worked hard and kept his nose clean. He played so well against the Chicago Bears, one longtime Packers beat writer suggested Leach might challenge to start ahead of William Henderson.


It turns out Leach couldn't beat an alleged three-time violator of the league's substance-abuse policy.



The last 2 paragraphs ring all to true IMO. In fact the whole article does
 

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You know, if you look at the NFL as a whole, it's getting harder and harder to gets players with class and morals. Just look around. There are more substance abuse guys then ever before. And T owens, Mike McKenzie, Javon Walker, Randy Moss and so on types. Instead of getting kicked out of the league for their actions, they all get sent to different teams with big pay raises. So what do the new guys learn? Act like a jerk and you will go far. The whole league is moving that way. It used to be that all trouble makers would end up in a Raiders uniform. Now theres too many of them all around the league to put on one team.
This is the way of the future i'm afraid. There are no Reggie White's to keep guys on their best behavior.
 
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Sucks for Vonta, thats all I know. 20 other guys should have gone before him. We lost a decent young FB and a heck of a guy it seems.
 
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tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.


Trom, have someone read the article above to you. Then have them explain it to you.

A Pro Bowl Kicker Returner who may never play a down for us. It isn't even about signing Koren, it's about who they decided to let go.
 

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tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
I'm not outraged by any means. If Robinson is allowed to play, cleans up his act and performs well, it will turn out to be a great move. Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.
 

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Oh.....and being a "good person" will only get you so far in this world today. It's sad, but true. In fact, it's usually the cut throat types that get everything.
Remember the old saying "Nice guys finish last"........well, i have lived that saying and got smacked around for it many more times in my life then i care to admit.
In the end, i know i'll make up for it, probably not while i'm here on this earth, but someday.
 

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yeah, a backup fullback.

for a guy who went to the pro bowl for returning punts was it?

ahmad carroll has his own charity...do i care? not really. he should be gone too.

Leach will land on his feet.
 
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He played so well against the Chicago Bears, one longtime Packers beat writer suggested Leach might challenge to start ahead of William Henderson.


Then he gets cut - nice!
 

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cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

Me neither, but he had one good game against chicago, so hes a pro bowl saint.
 

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tromadz said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

Me neither, but he had one good game against chicago, so hes a pro bowl saint.
I know Trom.........i think they had this planned before the Chicago game. They kept him for that game because of Henderson being out. I still think Henderson is alot better then Leach was.
 
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cheesey said:
tromadz said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

Me neither, but he had one good game against chicago, so hes a pro bowl saint.
I know Trom.........i think they had this planned before the Chicago game. They kept him for that game because of Henderson being out. I still think Henderson is alot better then Leach was.


I don't know what game you are watching Cheesey. No disrespect man, but Leach surpassed Willy last year as a better blocker. Willy definitely has better hands though.
 

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pyledriver80 said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

Me neither, but he had one good game against chicago, so hes a pro bowl saint.
I know Trom.........i think they had this planned before the Chicago game. They kept him for that game because of Henderson being out. I still think Henderson is alot better then Leach was.


I don't know what game you are watching Cheesey. No disrespect man, but Leach surpassed Willy last year as a better blocker. Willy definitely has better hands though.

*better* hands insinuates that leech has hands at all. which he doesn't -- none.

we need more than one dimension in that position. especially on *this* team.
 

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pyledriver80 said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

Me neither, but he had one good game against chicago, so hes a pro bowl saint.
I know Trom.........i think they had this planned before the Chicago game. They kept him for that game because of Henderson being out. I still think Henderson is alot better then Leach was.


I don't know what game you are watching Cheesey. No disrespect man, but Leach surpassed Willy last year as a better blocker. Willy definitely has better hands though.

I saw Leach wiff on more blocks then Willy.
Maybe i'm wrong.....it's just the way i saw it. He did not impress me. To me, he was just OK.
 

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pyledriver80 said:
tromadz said:
i seen him wiff a lot in the preseason


Of COURSE you did Trom......Because TT cut him......get real


Okay. Enough already.

Pyle you hate every move and lack there of from Ted.
Trom you love every move and lack there of from Ted.


Now stop already. Gosh this is so lame.

realism I see is where you are trying to come from pyle, but ur so negative on dang near EVERYTHING that Ted does.

trom I see where you are coming from, you want to let the men who are professionals do their job and be optimistic for your favorite team


if I see this, everyone else does so there is no need to continue this non sense.

thank you for your time.
 

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I dont love every move he makes. Ive criticized a lot of the moves he's made.

Its that kind of ignorance that gives birth to the namecalling that goes on (TT lover, etc)
 
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tromadz said:
I dont love every move he makes. Ive criticized a lot of the moves he's made.

Its that kind of ignorance that gives birth to the namecalling that goes on (TT lover, etc)


Mommy, Mommy
 

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cheesey said:
You know, if you look at the NFL as a whole, it's getting harder and harder to gets players with class and morals. Just look around. There are more substance abuse guys then ever before. And T owens, Mike McKenzie, Javon Walker, Randy Moss and so on types. Instead of getting kicked out of the league for their actions, they all get sent to different teams with big pay raises. So what do the new guys learn? Act like a jerk and you will go far. The whole league is moving that way. It used to be that all trouble makers would end up in a Raiders uniform. Now theres too many of them all around the league to put on one team.
This is the way of the future i'm afraid. There are no Reggie White's to keep guys on their best behavior.

best post this week!!!!!!! :D
 

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cheesey said:
tromadz said:
so we cut a backup FB.

for a pro bowl kick returner.


and there's outrage.

ok.
I'm not outraged by any means. If Robinson is allowed to play, cleans up his act and performs well, it will turn out to be a great move. Like i stated in other threads, i wasn't impressed with Leach anyway. JMO.

If......
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts.... then cheesy would finally have some nuts.
:p
 

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