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Favre Better than ever!

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by own3dhs, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Hauschild
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    Favre got ONE VOTE for MVP - what a sham.

    This proves my theory that this country is allowing people to hold jobs they really aren't qualified for - what I like to call socialism.

    Brett Favre had better numbers and was sacked TWENTY-FOUR more times than Manning. How can even people of average motivation and intelligence not understand Manning is basically a product of a vastly superior pass-blocking unit???

    And, again, Manning is gonna choke in the playoffs - mark my words.

    Get a clue - somebody!
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    Again your going by STATS STOP!!!!!!!

    If that were the case Rodgers would have won it....Add both of their sacks together and still didnt amount to same as Rodgers

    dont forget to add rushing tds too

    As I said, when the Colts lost it was a feather in the cap for Peyton
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    In that case, the Pack would probably win the Superbowl and you would be kind of ashamed. But I think it's not this year. ;)
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    I have no problem stating Rodgers is more productive than Manning - it's true. Imagine had Rodgers been sacked 10 times this season? Don't you people see the correlation for God's sakes???

    How can people intentionally allow themselves to be hoodwinked? Is it because they feel more secure having somebody making decisions for them???

    I mean, it ain't tough to digest. All the talking heads and a majority of unscrupulous fans every year talk about how great Peyton Manning is and how he accomplishes all that he does with no talent or coaching around him, and it never becomes evident until Manning chokes on another home playoff game.

    It is nothing short of astounding the level of brainwashing that occurs in this country at any given time.
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    Manning is just a better player...period, plain and simple.
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    Yeah, that's why Manning's been to ONE Super Bowl when having how many #1 and #2 seeds over the years???

    Pull this leg and you'll hear Jingle Bells. :)
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    I truly feel bad that Brett didnt get it, would have made for an awesome story line and would have pushed him further into the rankings for those that think he is not the #1 of all time..

    I see the coloration but as you have said time and time again stats dont mean anything as long as your winning..And Manning was 14-0 correct?

    and once again when Manning was not in, they lost..

    Doesnt that push the notion that he is VALUABLE to his team?
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    Um... you're intent on skating on last year's ice where Favre is concerned and that's ok - that's your choice. Fact is that this year's voting has ZERO to do with the past or Favre's wins last decade - it's all about THIS year. Now, you could make the argument that Favre is the Vikings MVP and I wouldn't quibble ... frankly, I wouldn't care - you see, he's now the QB of the Minnesota Vikings...and over the last 40+ years, I've always believed that the QB of the Minnesota Vikings could be systematically disassembled on a weekly basis and it wouldn't matter -- and I still believe that...because I just don't care about Brett Favre. THIS year, Manning was just a more valuable player than Favre -- afterall, Favre is surrounded by flippin' Pro-Bowlers and the Vikies STILL have problems securing a home field advantage. Favre and the Vikings had a magical and blessed season so far ... but, Manning is pulling the freight train himself in Indy.
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    So then your saying Peyton is at fault when they had the #1 seed???

    Then by that logic the NFCCG Brett was at fault for the Giants loss?
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    I certainly am being pleasantly entertained this playoff season. All the hyped QB's going down for the count, yet nobody accusing them of "choking" and "playing poorly".

    Brady's looks awful, McNabb was nothing short of dreadful, Palmer is done - was it these players severely declined skill sets, or were these players the victims of poorer talent around them??? I absolutely LOVE when a plan comes together and I'm proven right time and time again.

    Tonite, it'll be Warner's turn to "choke" in a big game because as 80% of you guys point out, QB's are the SOLE determinant of the outcome of any "big" game - ya'll imply it has little to do with teammates and coaching.

    Which leads to next week - the (2) most heralded and accused chokers in "big games" in NFL history (until this playoff season, of course, when Brady and McNabb and Palmer will be the new crowned kings): Favre and Romo. Good Lord, what happens if neither throws a pick or only one? What happens if Favre looks better than Romo? Does that mean Romo is back to his old tricks of "choking" in "big games"? The same for Favre???

    I LOVE THIS STUFF!!! :)
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    lol im suprised my thread became 9 pages :D
    good to hear people care what i have to say! even though it kind of drifted to an MVP talk haha
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    I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of Indy. Their defense is what gives Manning endless opportunities to take the field. It's a fine balance of give & take between an offense and defense that's hard to acquire. The Colts have it & many teams wish they did. GB had it in the '90s & it made #4 the star & the MVP resided at 1265 Lombardi Avenue for 3 straight seasons, a feat that may never be equalled unless Manning gets another in '10.

    Personally I think Drew Brees outplayed Peyton Manning in '08 & '09.
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    So, is Romo choking?
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    Can't deny he's playing pretty well right now. I hate to say I'm finding myself enjoying this, probably out of so much hatred for Dallas. Either way, you can at least give some credit to Sidney Rice. That's a solid receiver right there and I wish he were playing for the green and gold instead. I'm not trying to take credit away from Favre, I just think Rice is playing VERY well.
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    Brett is playing really well right now. More power to him. As long as he doesn't win against NO. I couldn't stand to see him be successful in anything other than Green and Gold.
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    Yeah, and how many Super Bowls has Burnt Fart won?
    The same number as Manning.
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    I think it's time somebody puts together the Top 10 Brett Favre Urban Myths. :)
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    Why??

    You STLL havent produced the the defense rankings for the time Brett had his worse Decemeber games
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    I'm nearly on the floor in laughter, dude. :)

    Favre sucks in December - oops, my bad - it's January. :)
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    At the time huh?

    So in 4 games, each of those teams dropped WAY down in rankings?

    since your adding yet ANOTHER reason, why not show us what each of those teams rankings were at THE TIME to back up your claim?

    Wow look how long ago you claimed a FACT, but failed to offer the proof..

    Lets look at your other genius predictions?


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    Manning's good, but he benefits from an organization that is serious about fielding the best O-line that it can year in and year out. They don't blow 1st round picks on DT's that don't play, 2nd round picks on QB's that aren't with the team any longer and CB's that never see the field.

    So, depending on the type of team you have in place is how I would decide if I would want Brett Favre running show, or Peyton Manning. Shaky offensive line and running game? Favre. Stupendous O-line where I'm sacked only 10 times in a season? Peyton Manning.
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    Any particular reason besides the irrelevant "Favre is my hero" talk? Are you saying Favre has better pocket presence then Manning?
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    Wait, wait hold on there for a second, the Colts o-line isn't the "best" o-line as you are pointing out, and fyi Favre's line is so much better than the Colts'. Seriously the only standout player from their line is Jeff Saturday whereas the queens have Mckinnie and Hutchinson. The reason why Manning only has 10 sacks this year is because he makes quick decisions and reads defenses timely. Favre as he admits likes to fling it up int he air just to get rid of it or squeeze into tight gaps "hoping" someone can come up with it. You put Manning under the vikings o-line and see what happens.
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    It's all about context Hausch. All about context. Hausch, have you studied all the colts and viking game tapes to prove if Favre makes quicker decisions then Manning? How do you know whether Manning makes quicker decisions or he has a better line? The point is you probably don't know. When you have time to look over those tapes, get back to me on that.

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