I stayed away from this forum last night to avoid the TMA factor, but reading today it is clear that there are a few guys on this board that absolutely hate Favre. Please don't come back with the "I don't hate him, I just want what's best for this franchise BS", because I'm assuming that by posting on a football forum you follow the game. If somebody says the offensive line played crappy the response is always "well Favre sucks". If somebody say MM called a bad game the response is "yea well I'm sure he told Favre to throw an int". The bottomline is Favre is playing with sh1t talent right now. The fact that Ruvell Martin or Chris Francis is even on the field shows how bad the talent on this team is. We have 3 rookies on the o-line right now, and unless we are playing a 1 win team they are overwhelmed. Our defense sucks. Farve has thrown 10 ints this year. Only 2 of them have come when the Packers were ahead or within a touchdown, I believe. I guess some fans would rather he just try to protect his stats and not try to bring the team back. It ain't gonna happen. Again.....don't be afraid to stand up and admit that you are a Favre hater. All the experts agree that he still has it. I believe Steve Young said last night he is still one of the best 5 QB's in the league but hey you guys know more than a hall of fame QB. Let's bench his arse and bring in Ingle Martin or worse....Aaron Rodgers.