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Everyone blames the D where is the blame for the O

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. adambr2 Cheesehead

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    So does that apply for any game that isn't close? If a team trails 42-0 and scores 3 TD's in the 4th quarter, should none of those count in the stat sheet?

    I'm not saying that the last TD helped them or even mattered. I'm just saying it still HAPPENED. It's still a TD.
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    yes it counts on the stat sheets but has no baring on effectiveness of the offence during the game. It was garbage time so while it still counts as per the score, the offence wasn't good so by even talking about that last TD, it makes it sound not as bad or a lot closer than the game really was. Whatever makes it okay to lose in that fashion, I guess.

    so if it didn't help them or matter why are we even discussing it? the offence was bad and i just wish the refs gave the niners that last int, just to end that pathetic game.
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    Again.....

    Rodgers was 26 of 39 for 2 TD's and 257 yards. They had over 100 yards rushing and they scored 24 overall. This was against one of the top defenses in the league. The offense was not "bad". They weren't fantastic like they played against the Texans earlier this year, but they weren't bad.

    The defense gave up almost 200 yards rushing in a playoff game. To a QB. That had not ever been done before. Not even close. It shattered the old mark. They gave up 45 points, after giving up 37 and 51 in their previous playoff losses.

    I would say that "everyone blames the D" because they pretty well justified getting blamed.

    I'm not saying the offense was great but next to the defense, there is no comparison to how badly the defense played.
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    I think with how bad the defence played it is overshadowing the fact that the offence was more or less ineffective most of the game and especially during the 2nd half. it isn't because of a lack of talent but coaching and basic principles that the offence doesn't seem to do on a regular basis.
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    3 points in last 29 mins..To ME thats bad..Considering the MVP in Rodgers

    We will never agree..I have my opinion, and so do you
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    It's
    It's also not accurate, since they scored 10 in the last 29 mins...

    You can cherry pick 29 minutes from many games and find time periods where your offense wasn't operating on all cylinders.

    I'm not saying the offense was perfect or even great. There's some areas that they could have done better. Better playcalling in the second half and better ball control overall with more sustained drives. All I'm saying is that the vast majority of the blame for the loss falls on the defense. By a landslide.
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    Ok so 28 mins they scored 3 points...

    Then got a TD with 1 minute and 7 secs left

    I guess you are okay with the offense getting 3 points in 28 min...I am not

    Why are we going on over 10 secs?? As I stated you and I wont agree...
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    It is easy to cherry pick X amount of minutes to make the offense look bad.

    In games that they won, the offense....
    Scored 7 points over a 58:05 span in the first game against Detroit
    Scored 0 points over a 27:50 span against New Orleans
    Scored 3 points over a 34:39 span in the first game against Minnesota
    Scored 7 points over a 30:38 span in the second game against Minnesota
    Scored 7 points over a 30:32 span in the second game against Chicago
    Scored 3 points over a 33:06 span in the second game against Detroit
    Scored 3 points over a 27:18 span against the Rams

    They scored 24 overall in the game against a very good defense. That should be enough, especially with a DTD to give them 31. Thanks to an awful defensive performance, it was not.
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    1st Det they got 24 points..How did they get 17 points in 2 mins?

    I have said the defense SUCKED and played horrible...I have said that is MAIN reason why they lost..

    However for me the offense played poorly in 25 mins of 2nd half..(that is a fact) MVP Rodgers could have played a LOT BETTER...

    It is my opinion...Why are you still trying to argue?
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    1 - They didn't...however one of the two scores in the first 58:05 was a DTD.
    2 - Never disagreed that the offense could have done some things better.
    3 - Same reason you are, just defending our positions...everyone is entitled to an opinion.

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