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DRAFT - College Prospect Thread

Discussion in '2011 Draft Archive' started by FrankRizzo, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. FrankRizzo
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    I think the combine is underway, and we are seeing mocks from all over the place now, from CNNSI Don Banks, to Mel Kiper, and everywhere else.

    Who here is into these things, scouting and mock drafting?
    It's GIGANTIC around the country on other specific national forums.


    One thing I know I want to come away with in this draft is a stud return guy, punt & kick. That's the area that we have the most room to improve.

    The second thing I want to see is us find a future O-tackle to take over after Clifton is done.... if Bulaga moves to LT, then we need a RT. If we draft a natural LT, then perfect.

    We also need to find one more WR because James Jones contract is up and he might not be back, and Driver finally started to show his age this year or that his luck is running out because he has started to suffer some injuries lately.

    Most Important Areas we need to upgrade
    -Return specialist (either a WR or RB)
    -Future OT
    -Future CB
    -OLB opposite Matthews if the guy is a big upgrade from Erik Walden, Frank Zombo, and Brad Jones
    -Another WR to groom if he's not taken as a return specialist first
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    I definitely agree with your list of needs for our team to go for the repeat next year. It always bugged me having TWilliams back returning punts. The guy is a stud cornerback, and I don't want him risking getting injured trying to make special teams plays. A great return guy means a lot, look at how big of a game changer Hester is. I wouldn't mind taking a pick on a guy in the later rounds of the draft that can return for us for the next decade. Anybody know any good return guys that will be in the draft?

    You never can have enough linebackers in the 3-4, an olb would be a nice addition.

    James Jones makes my head hurt. If he could consistently catch the ball, he'd be able to step up into a true #2 receiver. I wouldn't mind adding someone to the receiver core though, it was scary in the Super Bowl when we had Swain out there :XD:.
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    Here are some WRs we can get in the 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th round who can start their career returning kicks and punts and not be needed much at WR. The thing is, Ted will only take guys with good character, which is good. I have no idea what level of thug any of these guys are, but surely some of them are and won't pass that test.

    Philip Divas
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E9OrkWlijg&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - phillip livas[/ame]

    Shaky Smithson
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPrdxI5nVmo&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Shaky Smithson 2 Touchdowns vs UNLV - 2010[/ame]

    Jock Sanders
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPmgqklGM7A&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - He's Back (Jock Sanders Highlights)[/ame]

    Aldrick Robinson
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtz1kdGq4Yc&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Aldrick Robinson Highlights 2008[/ame]

    Edmund Gates
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs4BeSDwk0w&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Edmond Gates - Abilene Christian University - Part 1[/ame]

    Dwayne Harris
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzXpeP7Cj3I&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Dwayne Harris vs. Tulsa (2010)[/ame]
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    Name College Height Weight Proj. Round Notes

    1
    . Jerrell Jernigan Troy 5'9 185 2nd-3rd Gamebreaker with great speed and separation ability
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    . Torrey Smith Maryland 6'0 190 3rd-5th Above average speed; gets deep; improving route runner
    3 . Derrick Locke Kentucky 5'9 182 4th-6th Explosive back with durability issues; playmaker, returner
    4 . Ronald Johnson USC 6'0 185 6th-Undrafted Underachieved, has talent, but hasn't put it all together
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    . Titus Young Boise State 5'11 170 2nd-3rd Deep threat and the Bronco's number one option.
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    . Jacquizz Rogers Oregon State 5'9 180 4th-6th Playmaker, probable returner, doesn't have size to be #1
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    . Justin Rodgers Richmond 5'10 181 3rd-5th Great speed, he will at the very least get a shot at returner
    8
    . Randall Cobb Kentucky 6;0 190 2nd-3rd Playmaker, a combination of Percy Harvin and Brad Smith
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    . DaNorris Searcy North Carolina 6'0 210 6th-Undrafted
    10 . Kendall Hunter Oklahoma State 5'8 175 5th-7th Works between tackles well, tough runner, size hurts
    11
    . Niles Paul Nebraska 6'1 220 6th-Undrafted Quick off the line and plays physical; has deep speed
    12
    . Noel Devine West Virginia 5'8 175 5th-Undrafted Size hurts a lot, but his explosiveness is hard to pass on
    13
    . Rashad Carmichael Virginia Tech 5'10 182 2nd-3rd Plays well in big games and big situations against good WR
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    . Joe Lefeged Rutgers 6'0 190 5th-7th Surprisingly athlete, solid range, struggles man to man
    15
    . Quinton Carter Oklahoma 6'0 210 4th-6th
    16 . Dwayne Harris East Carolina 6'0 205 4th-6th Doesn't always "show up", but has the speed to be a threat
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    . Jeremy Kerley TCU 5'9 188 3rd-5th Quick receiver, explosive, good concentration, slot guy
    18
    . Edmond Gates Abilene Christian 5'11 190 5th-7th Has become a complete receivers, workouts will be huge
    19
    . Aldrick Robinson SMU 5'10 178 6th-Undrafted
    20 . Jock Sanders West Virginia 5'6 170 6th-Undrafted
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgaIWWh0QE]YouTube - Randall Cobb Great play(s) against Auburn[/ame] I really like this guy Randall Cobb

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqU0OVh8O1Q&feature=related]YouTube - Randall Cobb 50 yard punt return for a touchdown. UK 63 WKU 28 9/11/10[/ame] Notice how he CATCHES THE PUNT instead of letting hit hit the ground and bounce and roll further
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    Speed, speed, speed...a 4.2 - 4.3 guy. A guy who can take it EVERYTIME he touches the ball.

    "You can teach technique, you can't teach speed." - Coach Paul Brown
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    I would love to see Niles Paul come to the Packers. Although, I must admit that I'm biased (I'm a Nebraska fan). He's got good speed and he's a good kick returner. He has a lot of talent, but didn't really get to use it at Nebraska where it's run, run, run, and then run some more. With some training, he could probably become a really good WR too. Anyone else watch some Nebraska football and see something different? Feel free to burst my bubble.
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    That's actually what I want. I want a WR who's not so ready immediately like Jennings and Jones were as rookies.
    Greg Jennings was a great returner at Western or Central Michigan, but he became too important as WR right away. (Just like Tramon should be!!!).

    I want a WR who takes 2 or 3 years to be ready to start, but in the meantime, gives us a Josh Cribbs or Devin Hester for once.

    Hester still sucks as a WR after trying for 4 years to make him into one, but he's still a damn game-changer as a PR. Let's get a guy like that.

    I gotta study up on Niles Paul. What a strange name. Niles.
    Paul. Which is the first name? Paul Niles?
    Here's some highlights of Mister Niles. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmFt10el-m4&feature=related"]YouTube - Niles Paul Highlights[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTNL2wWlKBk&feature=fvwrel"]YouTube - Paul Pushed By High Standards, Ahman Green[/ame] AHMAN GREEN is his UNCLE???

    He seems like a pretty good guy! Not a stupid criminal thug like too many are, or a diva like a lot of WRs are. That's something that TT does a great job of... Jennings, Jordy, Jones are all good people. This guy seems like he'd fit in.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoXWJgKGCko&feature=related"]YouTube - Niles Paul Interview[/ame]
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    I have wanted TT to draft a pure returner (not our best CB) for years now but have finally given up that happening. Its really the only thing about TT and the draft I bag my head about. When woodson would return I would cover my eyes in fear of an injury (even though they dont get hurt that much surprisingly)
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    I couldn't find this thread! I even searched.

    Thanks to CSchw for LIKING this, which I saw on my profile, allowed me to click this and get here. Now I can reply and see where it is.

    Ted drafted a WR who was a great returner 4 years ago in Cory Rodgers from TCU, and I live here in the DWF area and I loved that guy, he was an ELECTRIC RETURN stud.... but somehow, our special teams coach Dick Stock changed the way he wanted Rodgers to field the punt, and he all of a sudden totally forgot how to catch the ball.... and he got cut. That sucked. Should have kept him on practice squad. Or, should have cut coach Stock and let the kid catch the ball how it had worked for his whole life til that point.

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