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You retired too? .... Not me. I'm in my prime
Lots of props to Timmie... he has that Dline for KC playing very well.. but kind of a neat little look back in time.
Lucas: For Krumrie, Sunday's setback a strong case of 'Deja-Favre'
Mike Lucas — 11/05/2007 10:16 am
While watching the final minutes play out Sunday between the Green Bay Packers and the Kansas City Chiefs, there's a very good possibility that Tim Krumrie, the Chiefs' hard-core defensive line coach, had a strong case of Deja-Favre. Surely, he had to wince -- make that growl instead of wince since wincing has never been a part of Krumrie's make-up -- when the irrepressible Favre connected with the (arguably) irreplaceable Greg Jennings for a 60-yard touchdown that lifted the die-hard Packers into a 23-22 lead with 3 minutes and 5 seconds left.
Once again, Favre wouldn't let them down, or let them die (despite falling behind 7-6, 14-13 and 22-16). That the Chiefs would be sitting -- as in "sitting ducks'' -- in a defense, a standard Cover 2, that isolated a 34-year-old middle linebacker (Donnie Edwards) on the 24-year-old Jennings was hard to believe, if not rationalize, especially since Jennings had burned Denver cornerback Dre (Blow)Bly the week before on a deep ball. KC coach Herman Edwards conceded afterward that he was hoping to bait Favre into throwing an out cut against that look. Instead, he left Edwards vulnerable and Favre didn't waste any time exposing him; throwing off his back foot in his haste to make sure the ball got to Jennings.
It did.
"Favre got to the last step in his drop and let the ball go and it came down where it needed to come down, it's frustrating,'' Chiefs safety Jarrad Page told the Kansas City Star. "As a defense, we feel like we lost the game."
That's how Tim Krumrie felt 15 years ago when Favre engineered scoring drives of 88 and 92 yards in the fourth quarter to rally the Packers to a 24-23 win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Kitrick Taylor is no Greg Jennings. But he was on the receiving end of Favre's game-winning 35-yard TD pass with 13 seconds left. "We gave the game away,'' growled Krumrie, then the starting nose guard for the Bengals. "I would have bet the house that with one minute left we could hold anybody out from 92 yards. But they (the Packers) had enough faith in themselves and Favre to beat us.''
Favre was playing because Green Bay's starting quarterback Don Majkowski was knocked out of the game late in the first quarter. Majkowski suffered ligament damage to his ankle when sacked by Krumrie, the former University of Wisconsin All-American, who was later heckled and jeered by a small number of Packer fans in the Lambeau Field parking lot. They had taken umbrage with his clean hit on the Majik Man. Little did they know at the time that Krumrie had just done them a huge favor. Favre was inserted as the starter the following Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, another win, and Favre has been starting and winning happily ever after.
But what Krumrie had to say immediately after that 1992 game is still instructive today. "I give the kid credit," he said of Favre, then 22. "The last two drives he put on a show, and that's what it takes. The bottom line is they won the game and all the bad things he did will be overlooked. What makes everything go is their quarterback. He's a tough guy." Years later, after Favre had established his Hall of Fame credentials, Krumrie said, "He's a quarterback with a linebacker's mentality. That's what makes him great and that's what makes the guys around him want to play for him even more."
That respect for Favre continues to grow from generation to generation. Jarrad Page was 7 when Favre replaced Majkowski and got his first start in the NFL. So when Page was asked about the unflappable Favre after Sunday's latest heroics, he told the Kansas City Star, "That's the competitor in him. He doesn't quit. He didn't get down on himself after those (interceptions). That's a guy you have to respect." Added Chiefs cornerback Patrick Surtain on Favre, "He's seen pretty much everything that you can throw at him."
And now so have we.
Seen everything.
The Lions are 6-2.
Not the British Columbia Lions. Not the Penn State Nittany Lions. The Detroit Lions.
Wrote Rob Parker in the Detroit News, "Don't scratch your head. Don't try to figure it out. After drowning in a sea of losses the past seven seasons, Lions fans should relish this time, this moment. After all, it's safe to say at this point, the Lions are no longer the sad sacks of the NFL."
If you don't want to take Parker's word, take Mitch Albom's. "Psst. Don't look now. But we got ourselves a football team," Albom wrote in the Detroit Free Press.
If you won't take his word, either, take Michael Rosenberg's. "There are heady times here at Matt Millen for President headquarters," Rosenberg wrote in the Free Press. "Here at Millen in '08, we just figure that since Millen has done, uh, is doing such a wonderful job as president of the Lions, why not hand him the whole country?"
That's how giddy, if not delusional everybody is getting these days in Detroit over the 6-2 Lions, though Rosenberg was clearly (ya think?) in Wayne Fontes "mock-mode" and making light of the Lions' pathetic 24-72 record during Millen's first six seasons. Nonetheless, you can't ignore the larger than NFC-North-Life fact that the Lions have won three straight for the first time in seven years and trail the Packers by just one game. That Detroit and Green Bay will square off twice in the final six games should make things even more interesting, if not befuddling. Particularly since Jon Kitna's bold preseason prediction (10 wins) might be too low.
"This is real, this is real," Lions defensive tackle Cory Redding contended after Sunday's 44-7 blowout of the hapless Broncos. "What you see is what you get. We're not the same-old Lions anymore." What next, the Pack is Back?
Lucas: For Krumrie, Sunday's setback a strong case of 'Deja-Favre'
Mike Lucas — 11/05/2007 10:16 am
While watching the final minutes play out Sunday between the Green Bay Packers and the Kansas City Chiefs, there's a very good possibility that Tim Krumrie, the Chiefs' hard-core defensive line coach, had a strong case of Deja-Favre. Surely, he had to wince -- make that growl instead of wince since wincing has never been a part of Krumrie's make-up -- when the irrepressible Favre connected with the (arguably) irreplaceable Greg Jennings for a 60-yard touchdown that lifted the die-hard Packers into a 23-22 lead with 3 minutes and 5 seconds left.
Once again, Favre wouldn't let them down, or let them die (despite falling behind 7-6, 14-13 and 22-16). That the Chiefs would be sitting -- as in "sitting ducks'' -- in a defense, a standard Cover 2, that isolated a 34-year-old middle linebacker (Donnie Edwards) on the 24-year-old Jennings was hard to believe, if not rationalize, especially since Jennings had burned Denver cornerback Dre (Blow)Bly the week before on a deep ball. KC coach Herman Edwards conceded afterward that he was hoping to bait Favre into throwing an out cut against that look. Instead, he left Edwards vulnerable and Favre didn't waste any time exposing him; throwing off his back foot in his haste to make sure the ball got to Jennings.
It did.
"Favre got to the last step in his drop and let the ball go and it came down where it needed to come down, it's frustrating,'' Chiefs safety Jarrad Page told the Kansas City Star. "As a defense, we feel like we lost the game."
That's how Tim Krumrie felt 15 years ago when Favre engineered scoring drives of 88 and 92 yards in the fourth quarter to rally the Packers to a 24-23 win over the Cincinnati Bengals. Kitrick Taylor is no Greg Jennings. But he was on the receiving end of Favre's game-winning 35-yard TD pass with 13 seconds left. "We gave the game away,'' growled Krumrie, then the starting nose guard for the Bengals. "I would have bet the house that with one minute left we could hold anybody out from 92 yards. But they (the Packers) had enough faith in themselves and Favre to beat us.''
Favre was playing because Green Bay's starting quarterback Don Majkowski was knocked out of the game late in the first quarter. Majkowski suffered ligament damage to his ankle when sacked by Krumrie, the former University of Wisconsin All-American, who was later heckled and jeered by a small number of Packer fans in the Lambeau Field parking lot. They had taken umbrage with his clean hit on the Majik Man. Little did they know at the time that Krumrie had just done them a huge favor. Favre was inserted as the starter the following Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, another win, and Favre has been starting and winning happily ever after.
But what Krumrie had to say immediately after that 1992 game is still instructive today. "I give the kid credit," he said of Favre, then 22. "The last two drives he put on a show, and that's what it takes. The bottom line is they won the game and all the bad things he did will be overlooked. What makes everything go is their quarterback. He's a tough guy." Years later, after Favre had established his Hall of Fame credentials, Krumrie said, "He's a quarterback with a linebacker's mentality. That's what makes him great and that's what makes the guys around him want to play for him even more."
That respect for Favre continues to grow from generation to generation. Jarrad Page was 7 when Favre replaced Majkowski and got his first start in the NFL. So when Page was asked about the unflappable Favre after Sunday's latest heroics, he told the Kansas City Star, "That's the competitor in him. He doesn't quit. He didn't get down on himself after those (interceptions). That's a guy you have to respect." Added Chiefs cornerback Patrick Surtain on Favre, "He's seen pretty much everything that you can throw at him."
And now so have we.
Seen everything.
The Lions are 6-2.
Not the British Columbia Lions. Not the Penn State Nittany Lions. The Detroit Lions.
Wrote Rob Parker in the Detroit News, "Don't scratch your head. Don't try to figure it out. After drowning in a sea of losses the past seven seasons, Lions fans should relish this time, this moment. After all, it's safe to say at this point, the Lions are no longer the sad sacks of the NFL."
If you don't want to take Parker's word, take Mitch Albom's. "Psst. Don't look now. But we got ourselves a football team," Albom wrote in the Detroit Free Press.
If you won't take his word, either, take Michael Rosenberg's. "There are heady times here at Matt Millen for President headquarters," Rosenberg wrote in the Free Press. "Here at Millen in '08, we just figure that since Millen has done, uh, is doing such a wonderful job as president of the Lions, why not hand him the whole country?"
That's how giddy, if not delusional everybody is getting these days in Detroit over the 6-2 Lions, though Rosenberg was clearly (ya think?) in Wayne Fontes "mock-mode" and making light of the Lions' pathetic 24-72 record during Millen's first six seasons. Nonetheless, you can't ignore the larger than NFC-North-Life fact that the Lions have won three straight for the first time in seven years and trail the Packers by just one game. That Detroit and Green Bay will square off twice in the final six games should make things even more interesting, if not befuddling. Particularly since Jon Kitna's bold preseason prediction (10 wins) might be too low.
"This is real, this is real," Lions defensive tackle Cory Redding contended after Sunday's 44-7 blowout of the hapless Broncos. "What you see is what you get. We're not the same-old Lions anymore." What next, the Pack is Back?
