A star is shinning in Pittsburgh

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Here is the hold on the last play of the game

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As far as the fumble that was called back goes, the play went exactly as the referee stated in his explanation. Roethlisberger clearly had possession with his arm moving forward before it was knocked out.

The roughing the passer penalty that I think you're referring to wasn't initially helmet-to-helmet, and from the referee's perspective, I can see how it would have gone uncalled.

I can't believe people are honestly stating that the catch at the end of the game should have been incomplete. That's the first I've heard of it, and I was in a bar full of Packer fans for the entire game.



You're funny.
Every single one of those penalties was an easy call, and a correct call. In fact, Woodson got away with pretty blatant PI towards the end of the drive.
The hand moving forward was a direct influence of Matthews' arm hitting him, which constitutes a fumble.

The helmet to helmet his, if it was in Roethlisberger, would be called, and you know it. IF it was in Brady, Manning or Favre, moreso.

I'm not talking about the last catch. I'm talking about the 2 and 15 play in which ben scrambled and hit a RB, I think. Though I think the refs thought the replay was inconclusive, and because it was called a complete pass, it stayed, but it was out of bounds.

True that Woodson had a PI not called, but that doesn't change the fact that all of those were BS, and most importantly, THIS ONE:
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A clear hold on Raji, the last play of the game. That negates the TD, and is unassailable.

When you put the game into the hands of J.
Bush, you're taking a risk.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

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If that helmet to helmet hit was on Brady or Manning there would've been yellow flags all over the field. For some reason not every QB gets similar 'protection' from NFL referees.
 

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I think it's kinda funny that when the Vikings lost to the Steelers and I mentioned a possible BS tripping call I was lambasted by Packer fans. Different when it's your team isn't it? Only I never used the call as an excuse for losing because the Vikings should have scored more even with the penalty.

Now you guys can tell me how much "different" and blatant the calls against Green Bay were. And one thing. The Packers has 7 penalties in the Steelers game. The Steelers had 10.
 

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I think it's kinda funny that when the Vikings lost to the Steelers and I mentioned a possible BS tripping call I was lambasted by Packer fans. Different when it's your team isn't it? Only I never used the call as an excuse for losing because the Vikings should have scored more even with the penalty.

Now you guys can tell me how much "different" and blatant the calls against Green Bay were. And one thing. The Packers has 7 penalties in the Steelers game. The Steelers had 10.

Hmmm... I guess go tell your sob story over at gaypride.org?
 

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I think it's kinda funny that when the Vikings lost to the Steelers and I mentioned a possible BS tripping call I was lambasted by Packer fans. Different when it's your team isn't it? Only I never used the call as an excuse for losing because the Vikings should have scored more even with the penalty.

Now you guys can tell me how much "different" and blatant the calls against Green Bay were. And one thing. The Packers has 7 penalties in the Steelers game. The Steelers had 10.

I dont think you posted anything here about the Vik Pitt game, unless your using a different name now?

That tripping call btw, could have gone either way..Just as the fumble by Ben...However just as the rule for the fumble, the tripping was the the right call...based on the definition
 

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Sorry, I have no reason to go to your hompage. Nice try though.

BTW, I have been called worse by better people so try your best, from this point on I will not respond to you pathetic taunts.

LOL, :Bananas:funny that you think your pathetic taunts on a packers website are any better than mine.

You vikings trolls are whats pathetic coming in and talking smack only when your team is doing well then run off to hide when they do poorly. No wonder the Ziggy is threatening to leave town.
 

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Without fail, it seems that time and time again the Pittsburgh Steelers prevail. A team that you wouldn't think would be all that talented seems to pull through the good and the bad, and prove themselves a dominant team in the NFL.

So the question arises: who is to thank for all this? Is it Ben Roethlisberger? The man who frankly treats the football like a loaf of bread, has troubles understanding how to work his feet and his hands, and seems to magically slip away from Massive sacks as if there's some lubricant on his shirt? -hint- Is it Heinz Ward? The mediocre receiver that is an acclaimed star because he smiles like an ******* after each reception? One would say it's the juggernaut of an offensive line that seem to stop every rusher in their tracks, whether it takes holding, tripping, or any type of illegal block.

I say no, it is none of these fine men. The true hero of the Pittsburgh Steelers is the ******* the referees have for this team.

Time and time again the Steelers feel down, due to their lack of talent, but are always brought back up to these fine, noble referees. The referees are their to tell them that it's okay, and everything will be alright. They tell them that I know you may not have the pure ability to win a game, but you can cheat. For even more comfort; when even a hold or a clip doesn't cut it, the Steelers know the referees will still be by their side, defending the noble offense against the horrors of "defensive holding" and "illegal contact".

Even this last game we, as Packers, had against this team would have been a dishonorable victory against these deities of football if not for the saving grace of the referees.

So to all the referees in the NFL, I salute you. Without you all hope would be lost, and we would never see the shinning godliness that is Ben Roethlisberger and the Steelers.

... on an unrelated note, has anybody noticed that Ben Roethlisberger's initials, B.R. also stand for Big ******? I think I'm starting to understand why they always seem to "perform" so well.

That was a well thought out and extremely impressive insight of the game....for a 10 year old. I bet you were wearing your tinfoil hat while you were writing this up.

...on an unrelated note, have you noticed that Aaron Rodgers initials, A.R. stand for Amazing ******? Did you like how I did that?

You lost. Deal with it. There is no conspiracy. All you did is make yourself look like a tool.
 

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That was a well thought out and extremely impressive insight of the game....for a 10 year old. I bet you were wearing your tinfoil hat while you were writing this up.

...on an unrelated note, have you noticed that Aaron Rodgers initials, A.R. stand for Amazing ******? Did you like how I did that?

You lost. Deal with it. There is no conspiracy. All you did is make yourself look like a tool.

Nice post for your 1st here

Way to get a warm welcome!
 

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That was a well thought out and extremely impressive insight of the game....for a 10 year old. I bet you were wearing your tinfoil hat while you were writing this up.

...on an unrelated note, have you noticed that Aaron Rodgers initials, A.R. stand for Amazing ******? Did you like how I did that?

You lost. Deal with it. There is no conspiracy. All you did is make yourself look like a tool.

You must not have seen the big hold on BJ Raji on the last play of the game, but then again you have to feel sorry for Ben getting hit all the time and holding the ball way to long.
 

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That was a well thought out and extremely impressive insight of the game....for a 10 year old. I bet you were wearing your tinfoil hat while you were writing this up.

...on an unrelated note, have you noticed that Aaron Rodgers initials, A.R. stand for Amazing ******? Did you like how I did that?

You lost. Deal with it. There is no conspiracy. All you did is make yourself look like a tool.


Yeah, no conspiracy. Right.....

Just like the Imaculate Reception. Or to more correct, Deception.

By NFL rules in 1972, it was illegal for two offensive players to touch a forward pass consecutively once it was in the air.

Buts thats not the worst of it. For some reason before confirming the call the ref left the field to make a phone call escorted by a steelers team official.:shok: The ref then came back on the field, signaled TD and then all the refs left the game.

Oh and lets not leave Mike Holgren out of the discussion when his Sea Hawks were cheated time and time again in the Super Bowl.
 

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I dont think you posted anything here about the Vik Pitt game, unless your using a different name now?

That tripping call btw, could have gone either way..Just as the fumble by Ben...However just as the rule for the fumble, the tripping was the the right call...based on the definition
Yeah, it was on other forums. I don't have a problem with the tripping call because it is how the ref saw it at the time. It's easy to sit in front of the TV and watch a play in slow motion three times and say it was BS. The guys on the field don't have that option. They are human and call what they see. Unless we want to stop play at every penalty or call to review it we have to live with it.

I do wish they were a little more consistent on the calls from crew to crew. There seems to be a lot of difference in what certain crews key in on to call. Some call more PI while other call more holding. At least it seems that way. Someone was tracking it at one time but I don't remember who.
 

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Yeah, no conspiracy. Right.....

Just like the Imaculate Reception. Or to more correct, Deception.

By NFL rules in 1972, it was illegal for two offensive players to touch a forward pass consecutively once it was in the air.

Buts thats not the worst of it. For some reason before confirming the call the ref left the field to make a phone call escorted by a steelers team official.:shok: The ref then came back on the field, signaled TD and then all the refs left the game.

Oh and lets not leave Mike Holgren out of the discussion when his Sea Hawks were cheated time and time again in the Super Bowl.
Woodson got away with blatant interference on the same drive. Who's to say the Steelers don't score earlier, or have more time left, if it's called correctly? To call holding on the final play would have been awful, especially since it appears the throw would have gotten off before Raji would have gotten there.

There was one bad penalty call in that Super Bowl, and that was the personal foul call on Hasselbeck on the interception return.
 

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The helmet to helmet his, if it was in Roethlisberger, would be called, and you know it.

Actually I don't. I watched Shaun Rogers lower his head and ram his helmet into Roethlisberger's shoulder in one of the cheapest shots I've ever seen on a QB. No flag.
 

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Actually I don't. I watched Shaun Rogers lower his head and ram his helmet into Roethlisberger's shoulder in one of the cheapest shots I've ever seen on a QB. No flag.
So he rammed his helmet into Roethlisberger's shoulder, and not head?

Talking about cheap shots, week 1, that bum Urlacher did a flagrant personal fault on Rodgers, after the play, and was also not called. On that same game that mf got what he deserved.

Fact is that was a helmet to helmet hit on Rodgers and was not called.

That was a holding on Raji and was not called.

I've said before, we should've won anyway, it doesn't take the credit off your team, but it WAS a major reason why we lost.
 

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Who cares about the refs. At the end of the day this "great" d of GB allowed over 500 yds. But the ranking wasnt a fraud right? GB had the lead with 2 min left and choked away what should have been a win. And if Ben could hit a guyu in stride this score wouldn't have even been this close.

Keep the hope TT fans, this team is going places:prayer:
 

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GB would have been up two scores has the fumble by Wallace and then again with Ben actually been called correctly.
 

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Who cares about the refs. At the end of the day this "great" d of GB allowed over 500 yds. But the ranking wasnt a fraud right? GB had the lead with 2 min left and choked away what should have been a win. And if Ben could hit a guyu in stride this score wouldn't have even been this close.

Keep the hope TT fans, this team is going places:prayer:
Ha. Didn't have anything to say for 5 weeks, and now that we lost a close game you suddenly appear...
 

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Ha. Didn't have anything to say for 5 weeks, and now that we lost a close game you suddenly appear...

Umm no i havn't "disappeared" for 5 weeks. Go back and check my posts as to what I was saying about this team. I said that I wan't sold on them and thought that the teams they beat didn't mean anything. If the d was so great then how does it allow 500 yds?
 

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Umm no i havn't "disappeared" for 5 weeks. Go back and check my posts as to what I was saying about this team. I said that I wan't sold on them and thought that the teams they beat didn't mean anything. If the d was so great then how does it allow 500 yds?

could say same about the Vikings vaulted D Sunday night
 

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GB would have been up two scores has the fumble by Wallace and then again with Ben actually been called correctly.
I just rewatched both of these, and both were called correctly. Wallace has to maintain control on his way to the ground for it to be a catch. I believe the same rule was incorrectly used to take a TD away from Jennings in the Bears game, and then later in that same game (correctly) on a wasted challenge by Lovie Smith.

Roethlisberger's arm was moving slightly forward on his own power before contact was made.
 

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