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2012 Roster Predictions

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  1. HyponGrey
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    Now that we have the 90, it is finally time to start jinxing our favorite players by predicting they make the roster!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1182978-predicting-the-final-green-bay-packers-2012-53-man-roster

    Now here's mine:

    QB: Rodgers Harrell Hill
    RB: Starks Green Saine (Saine is more versatile, so Green gets the change-up slot while Saine steps in on down 3)
    FB: Kuhn (Raji Taylor)
    WR: Jennings Nelson Cobb Jones Gurley (DD regrettably retires after winning DWTS)
    TE: Finley Williams Taylor (PUP: Quarless?)
    LT: Sherrod Newhouse
    LG: Lang Barclay
    C: Saturday Draheim
    RG: Sitton Dominguez
    RT: Bulaga Datko
    NT: Raji Pickett (Muir?)
    DE: (Pickett) Worthy Muir Wynn Guy (Suspension: Neal Hargrov)
    LOLB: Perry Walden
    SILB: Smith Francois (Hawk was traded to Philly for a 3 and moved back outside)
    WILB: Bishop Manning
    ROLB: Matthews So'oto Jones
    CB: Woodson Williams Hayward Shields House
    FS: Burnett Jennings
    SS: McMillian Richardson (Peprah was traded to Philly with Hawk)
    ST: Bush
    LS: Goode
    PS: Moss Smithson Coleman Genus Bennett Ross Daniels Lair

    I think the math is right...
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    You don't think Evan Dietrich-Smith hangs around on the o-line?

    I think rookie Mike Daniels makes it as a DE. In fact, I think he surprises some folks...

    Not a bad list...
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    EDS and Mike Daniels are locks to make the team.
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    those trades... i donno...
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    They're both a bit short. I just don't see Daniels 2-gapping in the NFL. I do see some of the bigger guards picking him up off the ground. EDS is a great back-up, I just don't like him. Don't know why, I just don't like him. Dominguez converted from Tackle and is bigger than EDS. Besides, everybody knows EDS sweats like a pig, even Rodgers says so LOL
    I don't think they'll happen either. Both Peprah and Hawk will both probably and frustratingly be starting. Peprah is a good back-up, but Hawk needs to go back to 4-3 OLB where he didn't completely suck. Trade him, he WILL be cut eventually. He's too expensive to rot on our roster. Let him rot elsewhere.

    It says in my tag "every cheese has its holes" Meet our biggest:
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    If you want, toss Dominguez (or Barclay, who can also play T/C) Guy (or Richardson) and B Jones. Put Richardson on the PS (If you tossed Guy). Start Hawk and Peprah, and put EDS and Daniels on the rotation. Should your heart desire. Note that I still believe Sherrod shalt reclaim his rightful position from this New and shameful house
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    I wouldn't hold my breath on the trades. Besides I think Philly has who they want on D. I woudln't mind having Jenkins back
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    True, this is the year of the undervalued trades... Think they'd take them in exchange for a cheesesteak? Two fat guys, a pocket rocket, and a pair of bums? I think they could use another OLB, but Rolle is serviceable. Ryans and Kendrichs will do well, but they need a safety.
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    I've had some authentic Philly cheesesteaks & they are the bomb. I thought Rolle got traded to the Rams
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    Where from? I lived LITERALLY right across the river (2 blocks from the shores of the Deleware right between the bridges) for 20 years. Just checked their roster, Brian Rolle is still there. Who did you mean? Casey? :roflmao:
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    Based on previous rosters, I'd guess that you have 1 too many QBs and 1 or 2 too many O-linemen. Obviously, Ted does a few oddball things, but it's been quite a while since he carried 3 QBs to start the season and last year I believe they only had 8 offensive linemen to start the season (Clifton, Lang, Wells, Sitton, Bulaga, Newhouse, EDS, Sherrod, right?)

    As far as where the extra spots go, I'm not sure. I wouldn't be surprised if they keep Crabtree, as he is considered the best blocking tight end. Perhaps a total of 6 running backs? Even Harrel isn't a sure bet to be the number 2 QB, although it is pretty safe.

    Note that the below isn't necessarily a depth chart, especially on the defensive line. And I'm short

    Offense: 24
    QB: Rodger, Harrel
    RB: Starks, Green, Saine, Tyler
    FG: Khun
    WR: Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Gurley
    TE: Finley, Williams, Taylor, Crabtree
    T: Newhouse, Sherrod
    G: Lang, EDS
    C: Saturday, Genus
    G: Sitton
    T: Bulaga

    Defense: 24
    E: Worthy, Daniels
    N: Raji, Pickett
    E: Guy and one of Wilson/Wynn.
    LOLB: Perry, Jones
    ILB: Hawk, Bishop, Smith, Manning
    ROLB: Matthews, Walden
    C: Williams, Woodson, Shields, Hayward, Bush, House
    S: Burnett, Peprah, McMillian, Jennings

    P: Masthay
    K: Crosby
    LS: Goode

    That's 50 and I'm not confident about Tyler, though I feel pretty good about the rest of the offense. Maybe a different number 5 WR.

    The defense is where there are question marks. On the line, I'd say only Raji, Pickett, and Worthy are the only locks. Perry and Mathews the only OLB locks. Hawk (for this year!) and Bishop at ILB.

    Defensive back is where it gets interesting. I'd really only call Woodson, Williams, and, Hayward, and Burnett locks. Shields and Peprah pretty good bets, and after that, who knows?
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    I thought Philly traded Samarie(not sur of spelling)was traded. Back when favre was still QB I flew upto Philly to watch thr Packers play a Monday night game. Oct. 2nd I believe it was. I had a Philly sandwhich from one of those 2 places that are diagonally across from one another
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    Being short can be a plus in the trenches; it helps with leverage. Although Daniels has short arms, his professionalism and work ethic has "Packer" written all over it. More importantly, the NFL has become a passing league and he would make a great fit in our nickle defense.

    I think Deitrich-Smith's versatility is what makes him stick on our roster as a backup. Just not liking him (and not knowing why) is a terrible supporting argument...
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    QB: Rodgers Coleman (2)
    RB: Starks Green Tyler (3)
    FB: Kuhn (4)
    WR: Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones, Driver, Gurley (10)
    TE: Finley, Williams, Taylor (PUP: Quarless?) (13)
    LT: Sherrod Newhouse (15)
    LG: Lang, EDS (17)
    C: Saturday Genus (19)
    RG: Sitton (20)
    RT: Bulaga Datko (22)
    NT: Raji Pickett (24)
    DE: Worthy, Daniels, Wilson, Guy (Suspension: Neal, Hargrove) (28)
    LOLB: Perry, Lattimore (30)
    SILB: Hawk, Smith (32) {Smith could beat out hawk in training camp}
    WILB: Bishop Manning (34)
    ROLB: Matthews So'oto Jones (37)
    CB: Woodson, Williams, Hayward, Shields, House, Bush (43)
    FS: Burnett Jennings (45)
    SS: McMillian Peprah (47)
    LS: Goode (48)
    P: Mashay (49)
    K: Crosby (50)

    We always seem to have a good find in the UDFA, and this year, I think it might be Tyler. I don't know what I see there, but I just see it...
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    I'll give you the QB argument, cut Hill, Coleman has a higher upside. I'm fairly confident we will have a back-up Center in addition to EDS this year and/or next year, you saw how many linemen we had to sign last year. I'm sure the Pack will want to keep at least a bit of that surplus. I like that Crabtree fights for yards; he could be amazing if he fixed the drops. That seems to be a common problem (lookin at you Finley). I'm just really excited at the possibility the new players present, even if in my hard of hearts I know only maybe three or four players will change from last years roster. Practice Squad will be where the competition gets tense. forget the rosters, increase the size of the reserves!
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    Tyler would be the Question mark, i think Saine will fight for the split carries, and is probably half a second faster than Tyler on the 40 Dash, not that speed is everything but 4.70 is SLOoW!
    Looking forward to the backup QB battle, could go either way right now.

    Other than that, this roster looks good.
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    At this point before one block or tackle is attempted in pads, it only makes sense to try to identify roster locks. So except for the injury caveat here are my locks:

    OL: Bulaga, Sitton, Saturday, Lang, Newhouse, Sherrod
    TE: Finley, Taylor
    WR: Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Jones
    QB: Rodgers, Harrell
    RB: Starks, Green
    FB: Kuhn

    LS: Goode
    P: Masthay
    K: Crosby

    DL: Raji, Pickett, Worthy, Daniels
    LB: Matthews, Perry, Bishop, Manning, Hawk
    CB: Woodson, Williams, Hayward, Bush, Shields
    S: Burnett, McMillian

    IMO the top 6 draftees are indeed locks. The last of that group selected was Manning and I think they think they got a steal in the 5th round with Manning. (I have a hunch they did.) Those players will either make the 53 or be IR'd if they get injured but I'll bet they won't risk exposing any of them to waivers in an attempt to get them on the practice squad. Each will get at least two seasons to prove themselves.

    The "controversial" locks: Harrell gets the nod because the coaching staff won't trust either newcomer to know the system as well as Harrell. Taylor is a lock IMO because he's the second most complete TE and he'd make it on his ST contribution anyway. I think Hawk is a lock but I wish he wasn't. I don't think Bush is controversial because he's a ST ace and because he knows the D well and can backup CB and S (not that he's great doing so).

    That's 36. As for the next 17? There's just no way to tell with zero data to evaluate the newcomers vs. the returning vets. And we won't start to get some data until the pads come on. IOW, while it may be fun to guess, IMO there's not even enough evidence to base a guess upon.
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    LOVING our new & improved Defensive Line!!!!

    Depth Chart, Week one vs San Francisco:

    DE: Pickett , Merling
    NT/DT: Raji , Daniels
    DE: Worthy , Guy

    Cut: CJ Wilson, Jarius Wynn

    Added in week 5 off suspension list: Mike Neal
    Added in week 9 off suspension list (Still think his appeal should win, down to 4 games): Anthony Hargrove
    Put in IR in week 9: Lawrence Guy

    Super Bowl XLVII in New Orleans, vs New England
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    Ah, you mean Pat's and Geno's. I like Pat's better but they're both kinda meh. The best places are usually the local mom and pop corner stores. There's one on South Street, has the checkerboard floor but I always forget the name....one of the best I've had.

    Now with the cheesesteak talk out of the way, I was wondering where you guys see Merling fitting in? I noticed he was absent from the OP final roster and just was wondering where he stands on the depth chart and in regards to your other DEs.
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    Good question. The Packers have 12 DL on the roster. UFAs Merling, Hargrove, and Muir all have NFL experience but (I believe) none of them got a signing bonus so they'll have to earn their spots.

    Raji, Pickett, Worthy, and Daniels are all locks IMO so that leaves the three UFAs (after Hargrove serves his suspension if he's still around), Neal, Guy, Wilson, Wynn and Johnny Jones to compete for perhaps just two spots. IMO Wilson, Wynn and Jones are the longest of long shots so it could be 4 or 5 guys battling for two spots. Merling is the closest to prototypical size for a 3-4 DE but IMO he's going to have to show a pass rush because Raji and Pickett and perhaps a couple of others can play the run at DE in the 3-4. And unless he can pressure the QB he won't have a shot at backing up in the 2-man DL, their most used alignment over the past couple of seasons (and rushing the QB is their biggest overall need). BTW, if what McCarthy said about Neal is true and if his suspension is lifted (2 HUGE "ifs") he gets a spot perhaps leaving just one up for grabs.

    That was a very longwinded way of saying I don’t know where or if Merling fits in. But I do know this: He better bring it every day in practice or he'll have a chance to catch on somewhere else.
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    I forgot about Daniel Muir.
    He could stick too.....
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    Well I appreciate the long-windedness(not a word). Very thorough breakdwon. I asked because Merling came from a 3-4 and flashed a little though he eventually fell out of favor. Didnt know if there were any rumblings from OTAs about how looked or if the coaches liked what they saw. But I know its only shorts and helmets so its hard to evaluate any interior player under those circumstances. I liked Neal coming out of the draft but it just seems its been one issue or another with him and he can't seem to get it going. I think Wynn is solid but you probably want more "push" opposite Pickett like you alluded to. Muir is the wildcard and the most unknown, IMO. Coming form that Cover 2, it'll be interesting to see how fits in with Capers scheme.
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    And now the more reasonable and more likely chart.

    QB: RODGERS HARRELL
    RB: STARKS GREEN SAINE (FB) KUHN
    WR JENNINGS NELSON DRIVER COBB JONES GURLEY
    TE: FINLEY CRABTREE WILLIAMS TAYLOR
    OL: BULAGA SHERROD NEWHOUSE DATKO SITTON LANG DOMINGUEZ SATURDAY GENUS GOODE
    DL: RAJI PICKETT WORTHY DANIELS MUIR MERLING
    LB: MATTHEWS PERRY WALDEN SO'OTO JONES HAWK BISHOP MANNING SMITH
    CB: WOODSON WILLIAMS SHIELDS HAYWARD HOUSE BUSH BURNETT PEPRAH MCMILLIAN JENNINGS
    PS: COLEMAN BENNETT MOSS BOREL ALLARD GUY MOSES RICHARDSON
    PUP QUARLESS
    SUSPENDED NEAL HARGROVE

    Still hope Draheim gets a shot, still think Daniels is too small, still hope Sherrod unseats Newhouse, still hope Hawk gets traded and Smith takes over, still think we kept Guy around for a reason. Also think its more likely to have 7 DL (5 LB, 6 WR pretty certain too) We'll see how things go once the pads become a factor.
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    Wasn't Guy just put on injured reserved last season? I could be wrong, but I thought that was the case. No point in releasing someone when they were put on IR, even if they don't think he'll make the team.
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    Why pay a guy who was injured to sit on IR for the entire season when you could simply cut him if he wasn't worth keeping?

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