2009 Packers no better than 2008 Packers

I have rarely post because I enjoy reading all of the posts and comments. But I have had enough with this mediocre crap when it comes to the Packers.

I have heard and read that some believe the ’09 Packers are better than the ’08 Packers. I disagree. The 2009 Packers are no better and may be worse than the 2008 Packers through the first 7 games of the season. Here is a comparison of the 2009 and 2008 teams (comparisons based on first 7 games of '09 and '08):

RECORD:
2009 (4-3) 2008 (4-3) no improvement, same record as ‘08

POINTS SCORED:
2009 (187) 2008 (194) ’09 offense has scored 7 pts less

POINTS ALLOWED:
2009 (134) 2008 (159) improvement, 25 less pts than '08

RECORD OF FIRST 7 OPPONENTS:
2009 (19-23, .452 %) 2008 (20-25, .444%)

RECORD OF OPPONENETS GB WON AGAINST:
2009 (7-23, .233%) 2008 (6-18, .250%)

RECORD OF OPPONENTS GB LOST TO:
2009 (12-3, .800 %) 2008 (13-7, .650 %)

MARGIN OF VICTORY:
2009 (20 pts) 2008 (14 pts) improvement

MARGIN OF DEFEAT:
2009 (9 pts) 2008 (8 pts) no improvement

TAKEAWAYS / GIVEAWAYS / DIFF:
2009 (17 / 5 / +12) 2008 (14 / 8 / +6) improvement

SACKS GIVEN UP:
2009 (31) 2008 (13) this is plain awful - 34 total sacks entire ‘08 season

DEFENSIVE SACKS:
2009 (12) 2008 (12) no improvement

PASSING TD’S:
2009 (14) 2008 (12) thrown 2 more TD’s in '09

RUSHING TD’S:
2009 (5) 2008 (5) no improvement

2009 first 7 games
Chicago W 21-15
Cincinnati L 24-31 – PLAYOFF TEAM ?
@ St. Louis W 36-17
@ Minnesota L 23-30 – PLAYOFF TEAM
Detroit W 26-0
@ Cleveland W 31-3
Minnesota L 26-38 – PLAYOFF TEAM

2008 first 7 games
Minnesota W 24-19 - Playoff Team, NFC North Champs
@ Detroit W 48-25
Dallas L 17-27
@ Tampa Bay L 21-30
Atlanta L 24-27 – Playoff Team, NFC Wild Card
@ Seattle W 27-17
Indianapolis W 34-14 – Playoff Team, AFC Wild Card

Through the first 7 games of 2008, the Packers played 3 teams who would eventually make the playoffs and were 2-1 in those games. In 2009, the Packers have played the Bengals who appear to be headed to the playoffs and the Vikings twice who will win the NFC North and possibly be the number one seed in the NFC. In those 3 games, the Packers are 0-3.

We all know what happened in 2008 after the first 7 games - the Packers tanked and went 2-7 over the next 9 games and finished at 6-10. Isn’t it funny (well, it really isn’t funny as a Packers fan) how history and past performance can repeat itself. Now, here we are in 2009 and the Packers own a 4-3 record after the first 7 games just like in 2008. If history and past performance does repeat itself, I see the Packers winning only 3 of their next 9 games with victories over Tampa Bay (no gimme game), over Detroit on Thanksgiving (again, no gimme game), and over Seattle at Lambeau. I do not see the Packers beating Dallas, San Francisco, Baltimore, @ Chicago, @ Pittsburgh and @ Arizona.

I pick the Packers to be 7-9 at the end of 2009. A one game improvement from last year is no improvement in my book. At least McCarthy will be gone at the end of year and I do not believe that A-Rod will last all season with our current O-Line.

I, just like all of you who post here, want the Packers to succeed and do well each and every year, to be competitive, and be in the playoff hunt every season. Some may say that is just too much to ask. But after enduring the 70’s and 80’s when the Packers only made the playoffs twice (1972 and the 1982 strike shortened season), and then to go from that to the 1990’s and 2000’s when the Packers made the playoffs 11 of those years (1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 and 2007), I do not think it is too much to ask.

The ’09 Packers have not improved from the ’08 Packers, and that to me is very troubling! The train has left the station and we are left with a trip to nowhere.

One word-Teddy

Is it possible for you to add the 2007 season stats into that as well ?

Could be interesting to see those numbers as well ...

No, he's an anchor on ESPN now

So the NFL doesn't change from year to year? Players don't get old? Geez... I can understand a year to year comparison, but 2 years of difference is a lot in the NFL.

I know, I blame Teddy Bruschi for all the packer's problems. That guy has to go down!:jester:

Oh I thought you meant something like a teddy bear or something lol.

You should post more

Welcome to the forum.

I really hate TB! He has a really weird look on his face, BTW... Like he's hiding something...

Uh, I'm gonna leave that one alone! :shock:

Cmon, man! Why do you think Bruschi was so feared by ball carriers? He has a creepyness in his facial expression...

Excellent breakdown of the stats. I agree that you need to post a little more often.