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10-17-2009, 10:06 AM
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NFC championship game may save his job. Ziggi seems to like him. As a fan I am in a win-win situitation because I am not a big fan of Brad Childress. The Chilly ball against the Pack was crazy as the Vikings were up by 16 with alittle over 3 minutes to go. The Vikings dominated the game the whole day(I realize except for packer fans)It was so obvious to all who watched the game. They try and kill the clock and rodgers gets abunch of garbage yards in the 4th qtr and packer fans act like they were right there but really they got pounded. Holmgren( how would that add to the drama) would be good fit as he is looking to return and there is a certain coach by the name of tony Dungy( Gopher Alum) hanging out at winter Park this summer. Or maybe even ex Super Bowl champion coach from Pittsburg Bill C is also looking for a job next year. The bottum line is yours and my input will not dictate how this season plays out. It is what it is. Favre is the guy who is QB of this team your stats will not throw the Int's you predict so keep talking about it as you make Viking fans like me laugh. Do you think he will get benched because of your stats? The Vikings have alot of talent so he won't have to do it all. The Packers with Favre were 13-3 his last year and a year later with Aaron Rodgers were 6-10. So where are your stats to defend that?
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10-17-2009, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Skol guy  | |
Vikings have always had great lineman but they do get overlooked so I hear what your saying. I was listening to the radio the other day and they compared teams from '98 to this year and nobody on this line would have started for our '98 team as we had Hall of Fame inductee Randall McDaniel in Hutchinson place. The late Great Korey Stringer and All-pro Jeff Christy at center and All-pro Todd Stuessie at tackle and perinial starter in David Dixon who was a monster. so the Vikings line is not great but the Vikings draft well with offensive line and always have. The QB position seems to be a revolving door around here where the packers have been so stable.3 QB's in the last 20+ years is pretty impressive.Magic man,Favre and now Rodgers. The Vikings haven't had a decent QB that has held down the job for any length of period since tommy Kramer and he replaced fran Tarkenton so that was along time ago.
| Mick Tinglehoff. Now there's a guy that even LOOKED like a center. He was one of my favorites in the 70's ... the just played his keester off.
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10-17-2009, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by weeds | |
Mick Tinglehoff. Now there's a guy that even LOOKED like a center. He was one of my favorites in the 70's ... the just played his keester off.
| Oh for sure. I remember those days well. The Vikings have had alot of great Centers over the years but Mick was the first real All-pro center. My dad would take us to training camp when it was in Bemidji and Mick would stick around and sign autographs way longer than anybody else. Bill "Boom-Boom" Brown and Mick were my first autographs I ever got. Joe Kapp was another great guy with all the kids at camp. Tarkenton was a prick. Back in the day the Vikings had a basketball team that would travel around the state and play games for charity and Bill Brown saw me and remembered me and came up into the stands and took me out on the court with him during the game. I was like 8 at the time so that was alot of fun. Great guys!
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10-17-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by weeds |
what is ailing this team has ZERO to do with the QB....same as last year. |
A-rod is not a god and can adjust his game to put the Pack in the best position to win with what he has to work with. If that means he only has 2.3 seconds on average to get the ball thats what he has to do.
Packers do not exist to serve A-rod.
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10-17-2009, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DILLIGAFF |
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A-rod is not a god and can adjust his game to put the Pack in the best position to win with what he has to work with. If that means he only has 2.3 seconds on average to get the ball thats what he has to do.
Packers do not exist to serve A-rod.
| How can he adjust if the receivers don't get open in time, and when they do, they drop the ball?
He's not a God, that's why he's not going to be perfect everytime. And the adjustments are made by the coaches. And I believe they have done that. We're not playing like we did against chicago anymore. But we're not going to just play short routes, because we don't have a running game to back that plan up! We need to throw the ball deep sometimes, at least to keep defenses safe, and more important, to keep our offense in the game. Unless our D starts to give up only 10 points per game, instead of the 20s they have been giving so far.
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10-18-2009, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PackersRS |
How can he adjust if the receivers don't get open in time, and when they do, they drop the ball?
He's not a God, that's why he's not going to be perfect everytime. And the adjustments are made by the coaches. And I believe they have done that. We're not playing like we did against chicago anymore. But we're not going to just play short routes, because we don't have a running game to back that plan up! We need to throw the ball deep sometimes, at least to keep defenses safe, and more important, to keep our offense in the game. Unless our D starts to give up only 10 points per game, instead of the 20s they have been giving so far.
| I agree packerRS I think you guys are blessed to have him. replaceing a legend has to be tough but he has all the tools in my book. You guys want T-Jack and Sage for him? I would trade in a minute.  |
10-18-2009, 01:35 PM
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I agree packerRS I think you guys are blessed to have him. replaceing a legend has to be tough but he has all the tools in my book. You guys want T-Jack and Sage for him? I would trade in a minute. | Today he played amazingly well, until he fumbled. Then, he was terrible. He utilized his checkdowns very well today, and the OL gave him a second more to let plays develop, and it paid out, with some key throws to first downs.
If we had a running game, we would only be seeing his best traits. My take on him right now, is that he's not an elite QB. He won't win you a game, all by himself, when everything else is falling apart. And in rare occasions he's going to cost you games. But give him a FUNCTIONAL supporting cast, and he'll lead you far. I'm not talking about great D, great running game. I'm talking functional.
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10-18-2009, 01:40 PM
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Agreed. Flacco is another guy that can put a team on his back. I like watching Rodgers but it seems the Pack play their games at the same time and so i don't get to watch him alot. He wil;l take you to the promised land with some help.
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10-18-2009, 01:44 PM
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Time to switch to the vikings forum and listen to those yahoo's brag about todays game. It was an ugly win and I think most should be quiet as a church mouse but they won't be.If I hear any superbowl talk I may vommit though after todays game.
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10-19-2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skol guy | |
Time to switch to the vikings forum and listen to those yahoo's brag about todays game. It was an ugly win and I think most should be quiet as a church mouse but they won't be.If I hear any superbowl talk I may vommit though after todays game.
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Agreed that it wasn't pretty in the fourth quarter ... - However, still ... gotta give props to young Flacco ... that "kid" hung in there and even while being pounded endlessly - he still managed to throw the ball on target ... - Ravens sure do have a potential "Super-Star" in the makings in Flacco and it was good to see him play ...
But a win is a win ... - huge upside is the offense, that seems to be able to score "at will" (when not being "hampered" by Chilly ...)
Anyways, 5 sacks sustained against the Lions ... would seem to indicate that Rodgers still is having trouble with his "internal" clock ... All though he did to a much better job at using the checkdowns in this game ... - Wonder if McCarthy was yelling in the microphone to him during the game ? ("Check down !!! USE the Check down !!!" - joking)
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